Need measurements from Fine Molds Falcon for scaling

[TK-326]

Hey all you Fine Molds Falcon builders...

I've decided on using the FM Falcon as my reference model for scaling up to 1:1. I'm ordering one from Starship Modeler but it won't be here for a week or so.

In the meantime...

I'd like to get started on some rough foundation dimensioning, and was wondering if one of you guys who has completed assembly could pull a few measurements for me so I can get my scaling calculations going.

I need the following measurements:

--- Absolute overall length nose to tail. From the very tip of the mandibles to the back-most protruding edge of the rear exhaust section.

--- Saucer section diameter.

--- Landing gear feet dimensions. I need to know the length and width of the widest points of the foot pads (I assume they are all the same) (A1, A2 on drawing)

--- Rear landing gear foot to foot spacing. I need to know the distance between the two feet that form a rear landing gear pair where one foot is just ahead of the other. (B on drawing)

--- Front to back landing gear distance. I need to know the distance from the front tip of the front-most single landing gear foot to a point bisecting a line between the rear-most points on the rear landing gear pairs. (C on drawing)

--- Distance from port rear landing gear to starboard rear landing gear. I need the cross-beam distance between the outer-most points of the rear landing gear. (D on drawing)

--- Distance from port middle landing gear to starboard middle landing gear. I need the cross-beam distance between the outer-most points of the rear landing gear. (E on drawing) This might be same as D.

--- Distance from front tip of front single foot to a point bisecting a line between the rear-most points on the middle feet. (F on drawing)

--- Distance from front tip of middle foot to the rear-most point on the rear feet. (G on drawing)

Thanks.
I really appreciate any help that anyone can provide.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

That's gonna end up absolutely humongous... this should be interesting.

Sorry, can't help with measurements, as I don't have the kit.

Good luck. :thumbsup

 

[TK-326]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NoHumorMan @ Jan 11 2007, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1395376[/snapback]</div>

That's gonna end up absolutely humongous...[/b]

Yes sir it is... :confused and I may regret it once I get into it, but hey, you only live once...

 

[Less than Super Ostrich]

Did you say 1:1 scale???

 

[TK-326]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Less than Super Ostrich @ Jan 11 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]1395409[/snapback]</div>

Did you say 1:1 scale???
[/b]

Yeah. Go ahead and tell me I'm crazy. You won't be the first.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Won't someone have measurements of the full scaled studio model used during filming?

 

[TK-326]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NoHumorMan @ Jan 11 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]1395424[/snapback]</div>

Won't someone have measurements of the full scaled studio model used during filming?
[/b]

It's not big enough.

See this thread for some previous discussions:
http://www.therpf.com/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=122471

 

[Too Much Garlic]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-326 @ Jan 12 2007, 12:29 AM) [snapback]1395430[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NoHumorMan @ Jan 11 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]1395424[/snapback]

Won't someone have measurements of the full scaled studio model used during filming?
[/b]

It's not big enough.
See this thread for some previous discussions:
http://www.therpf.com/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=122471
[/b][/quote]
I see your point. Well... hopefully some Fine Mold'ers will chime in with lovely measurements. :thumbsup

 

[Jedi Dade]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TK-326 @ Jan 11 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]1395421[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Less than Super Ostrich @ Jan 11 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]1395409[/snapback]

Did you say 1:1 scale???
[/b]

Yeah. Go ahead and tell me I'm crazy. You won't be the first.
[/b][/quote]


OK you're outta your mind... But I wanna come over and visit when you're done.

Jedi Dade

 

[ralphee]

OK this is just with a ruler and done pretty quickly but i hope it helps you out.
A1... 17mm
A2... 20mm
B... 14mm
C... 220mm
D... 15.4mm
E... 15.4mm
G... 162mm

Length i make 435mm, saucer seems to come out at 310mm

Like i said it was done quickly, but they should be as near as damnit i hope.

bests.....lee

 

[TK-326]

Awesome.

Thanks.

That will definitely get me started.

 

[ralphee]

Welcome TK.

lee

 

[TK-326]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ralphee @ Jan 12 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]1395894[/snapback]</div>

Welcome TK.

lee
[/b]

Were you able to take the "F" measurement?

 

[ralphee]

Sorry forgot that one, looking at the print out i wrote down 72mm.

 

[TK-326]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ralphee @ Jan 12 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]1395884[/snapback]</div>

OK this is just with a ruler and done pretty quickly but i hope it helps you out.
A1... 17mm
A2... 20mm
B... 14mm
C... 220mm
D... 15.4mm
E... 15.4mm
G... 162mm

Length i make 435mm, saucer seems to come out at 310mm

Like i said it was done quickly, but they should be as near as damnit i hope.

bests.....lee
[/b]

Hate to keep bugging you, but, can you recheck the "D" and "E" measurements? They seem awfully small.

 

[ralphee]

Me so silly, OK go with 150.4, it was before supper and i was real hungry, the food i had on the brain was interfering with the capacity to measure anything lol.

bets......lee

 

[TK-326]

Perfect.

Thanks

 

[ozzyguanche]

Hi TK-326

While I was putting together the graphics for the cockpit of the millennium Falcon I found the best way to scale everything to 1:1 scale to ensure the figures would be represented in a realistic way was to work from the full sized cockpit build (Not % scale) of the original set designed for ANH. It was full scale. Then apply that scale to the rest of the ship based on one of the 5' or 32" SSM's. The MR falcon internal cockpit was built from this reference as well.

Here is a pic of the original set.

Notice the 3 level floor, It explains why chewy can walk through the door but looks crampt when he gets to the console. The door and first level is 6.7", the second level (were the back chairs sit) is 6" higher off the door floor and the console floor is another 6" higher again.

It lends itself to the AHN 5 foot model more so than the 32" model, but if you are to scale everything from the FM falcon, then scaling in this way from the cockpit up, this should give you the hight you are looking for in the central core of the falcon. You will get much more height if you use the 5 foot as a reference though.

Here are the plans from 1976

And here is a plan that I found to be useful, it used the cockpit dimentions from the plans and extended the scale to the internal ship.

Some say the plans do not fit into the cockpit because of the floor. I didnt find this to be correct when I built from the plans the cockpit graphics.

Here is a pic

and the console

test fitted

So what I am saying is start with the cockpit and scale against your prefered model (32" or 5'). then you will find the areas of the falcon that are realisticly habitable.

Ozzy

 

[TK-326]

Ozzy,

Thanks for the great reference and advice.

Nice work.

 

[propsculptor]

Your whole project sounds really interesting and it sounds like you have put a lot of thought into how you are going to create it, If I lived near you I'd offer to help with what little spare time I have, but that's just too far a drive for me from California to Nashville, TN

Good luck on your project, I look forward to seeing and hearing more about it. :thumbsup

At this point I am drawing up plans for a 1:1 scale Falcon with complete, correctly scaled interior. Welded steel pipe frame with marine plywood exterior skin, weatherproofed. I own a secluded 88 acre tract of wooded land where I'll be building. A goal is to have the interior complete enough to be habitable as in a sort of guest house thing. You know, "hey come on over, you can stay in the Falcon..." smile.gif I ultimately plan to build my dream house on this property, but that's a ways off. I'm starting with a smaller dwelling that will end up being the pool house or another guest house. I'm rambling, but you get the idea.[/b]