Not only is it missing detail, it's got a huge hole in it:
http://www.forbiddenplastic.com/ref_star_w..._mos_isd_2.html
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Master Replicas Star Destroyer
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Plus basically the whole "top" side of the model is underdetailed compared to the bottom and rear. Most likely because the only "close-up" we get of that model is from that angle. Its interesting to note the differences in the 3 and 8 footers. The 3 footer is "flatter" and the superstructure is much more pronounced... if less detailed... the ESB 8 footer is more detailed on every face with a "smaller" superstructure (ratio based), but a thicker (top to bottom) hull.
Let's be honest here - we want them both...
the ESB 8 footer though would need to be scaled to under 3 feet to be reasonable to display, wher the ANH one "could" be studio scale and be displayable... Personally I'd hang it from the ceiling just over a doorway so you get the opening scene effect when coming into the room :love :thumbsup
Jedi Dade
Let's be honest here - we want them both...
the ESB 8 footer though would need to be scaled to under 3 feet to be reasonable to display, wher the ANH one "could" be studio scale and be displayable... Personally I'd hang it from the ceiling just over a doorway so you get the opening scene effect when coming into the room :love :thumbsup Jedi Dade
MonsieurTox
Master Member
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The right side of the 8 footer is far less detailed though (right superstructures, right upper hull, right gun turrets area, right side of the bridge and neck connector etc...). And it isnt lit on the right superstructures. The right brim trenches are lit though, but less than the left side.
The right side of the 8 footer is far less detailed though (right superstructures, right upper hull, right gun turrets area, right side of the bridge and neck connector etc...). And it isnt lit on the right superstructures. The right brim trenches are lit though, but less than the left side.
ringa
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Clearly both of these filming models were built with camera angles in mind. It is interesting, though, that the 3 footer was used to show the ship approaching Hoth, while the 8 footer was used to show that same ship getting blasted by the ion canon. There were a few models made of sections of the Star Destroyer bridge built at different, very large scales. All of them (including the 3 and 8 footers) are completely different in details. This creates the illusion that the closer you get to the ship, the more detail is visible. Its a very effective way of selling the idea that this ship is supposed to be gigantic.
And this was mentioned before, but the 3 footer is actually closer to 50 inches long, more than 4 FEET.––a considerable difference. If MR was to make a 1:1 replica of this, I would think it would make for an impractical collectible. It could drive the cost even higher than what we have seen and could hurt sales. To scale it down to 36 inches could be impractical from a production stand point. I would think a prototype would have to be built full size, then scaled down to 3 feet long.
What do you guys think? I would love to see an MR Star Destroyer, but I'm afraid the cost and size would be too much for most. MR may feel the same way.
And this was mentioned before, but the 3 footer is actually closer to 50 inches long, more than 4 FEET.––a considerable difference. If MR was to make a 1:1 replica of this, I would think it would make for an impractical collectible. It could drive the cost even higher than what we have seen and could hurt sales. To scale it down to 36 inches could be impractical from a production stand point. I would think a prototype would have to be built full size, then scaled down to 3 feet long.
What do you guys think? I would love to see an MR Star Destroyer, but I'm afraid the cost and size would be too much for most. MR may feel the same way.
SSR
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The figures quoted in the Lucasfilm Archives book, which I believe were parroted in the Chronicles book, are way off; it is closer to four feet in length, no matter how you measure it. Have to wonder about this; why would you go to the trouble of documenting this information in a proper museum conservation manner when the end result is so wrong ? Or was this all just a clever ploy to throw the studio scale modelers off track ? We are such a rotten bunch you know; dark-side types .
Well if you think about it logically, there is a pic in Chronicles showing the armature alongside a meter rule.
Well ok so we now see the armature as around 3 feet in length, most people then seem to think the model is 3 feet, ive heard it said many times and many people (to me at least have stated about this pic with the ruler)
So then one has to think about the hull plates then applied over this airframe, there is most certainly over hang at the rear and the front, therefore making the model larger than this fabled 3 feet, it is, i reckon at least closer to 4 feet in length, and thats just speculating as ive never seen the prop. Its the width that is more like 3 feet, therefore, this would be a HUGE replica for MR to undertake, it would dwarf even the Falcon as ive already said.
lee
Well ok so we now see the armature as around 3 feet in length, most people then seem to think the model is 3 feet, ive heard it said many times and many people (to me at least have stated about this pic with the ruler)
So then one has to think about the hull plates then applied over this airframe, there is most certainly over hang at the rear and the front, therefore making the model larger than this fabled 3 feet, it is, i reckon at least closer to 4 feet in length, and thats just speculating as ive never seen the prop. Its the width that is more like 3 feet, therefore, this would be a HUGE replica for MR to undertake, it would dwarf even the Falcon as ive already said.
lee
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I think if the market could endure the cost of the Falcon- there are many who could handle the cost of the 3 ft (or closer to 4 ft) MR SW ANH Stardestroyer- I know I would buy it for sure. (Just have to pre sell my sopuse on the concept first )
I think if the market could endure the cost of the Falcon- there are many who could handle the cost of the 3 ft (or closer to 4 ft) MR SW ANH Stardestroyer- I know I would buy it for sure. (Just have to pre sell my sopuse on the concept first
)MonsieurTox
Master Member
I thought it's more 40", cuz when you see a modelmaker close to it, it's not so big
Diameter of the mounting pipe : 2", Max Zephyr said that 1 5/8" would fit this pipe
So, here we can see the pipe which should be 1 5/8" and the hull, one green space is 1 5/8", I measured 25 spaces, so the devastator should be about 40".
Anyway I could be wrong
Diameter of the mounting pipe : 2", Max Zephyr said that 1 5/8" would fit this pipe
So, here we can see the pipe which should be 1 5/8" and the hull, one green space is 1 5/8", I measured 25 spaces, so the devastator should be about 40".
Anyway I could be wrong
MonsieurTox
Master Member
Anyway Bro well never know the truth about the Devastator length :cry Unless someone can take measurements directly on the model . And that would be nice, too bad the infos from the Chronicles and Iny to SW are wrong :/
Yeah some updates lol.... Im scribing the last panel and you know that I hate scribe ton of lines . :cry I scribe a dozen of lines and i stop etc... lol So this way takes a long time Anyway this work is almost done, just the nose to complete, I hope today, I will be able to start the detailing of the lower hull, yay .
Yeah some updates lol.... Im scribing the last panel and you know that I hate scribe ton of lines . :cry I scribe a dozen of lines and i stop etc... lol So this way takes a long time
Anyway this work is almost done, just the nose to complete, I hope today, I will be able to start the detailing of the lower hull, yay . 
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
As has already been mentioned the ANH model is closer to 3' wide. It's much bigger than one thinks. The overhang is pretty substantial.
MonsieurTox
Master Member
Hard to see on your pic since the "but" is closer to the cam than the "nose".
MonsieurTox
Master Member
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Interesting point . I didnt notice that . =)
Interesting point .
I didnt notice that . =)
