defstartrooper
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Lucasfilm to Strike Back March 7th - Lucasfilm vs Andrew Ainsworth
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Agreed, and to be honest all the negative stuff on AAs FB page only seems to be bringing out more SDS supporters, the trouble is we are not allowed to publicly show them an alternative set to purchase, so the unfortunate Mr Joe Public has no other option but to buy from AA.
Perhaps if new evidence comes forward he will surely have to lay down his claim the he is selling THE ORIGINAL TROOPER, as im sure its that tag line that is actually the allure in this set of armour, a false Tag line but one that seems to be doing the trick for him.
Brian Muir
Well-Known Member
im very much hoping that Dan will Join us soon, i actually believe he works in the Movie industry as what though im not sure, but errrrrrrrrrrrr he has been invited
I don't know if Dan will decide to join the forum but it will ultimately open him to defend his late mother.:confused
I can understand his need to confront Ainsworth with his lies but I think we all know how the discussion will go but he needs to find out for himself and he can make his own judgement about Ainsworth's character. He had no idea about this whole neverending constantly revamped saga.
Ainsworth's supporters on his Facebook site seem to fall into 2 categories :-
1. Fans who just want a suit and he is the only commercial option.
2. Idiots who have no concept of what it's all about and just enjoy insulting people ( I get the impression they're in their student years - particularly 'Abi'). I don't see that they do Ainsworth any favours in their moronic behaviour.
There is no point in covering old ground with Ainsworth because there is not a hope in hell that he will ever admit to his lies.
The only thing is to counteract his 'new' lies where he is now lying about the details of the judgement. It is so easy just to prove his lies by 'cutting and pasting' the relevant paragraphs from the judgement without any insults.
On the alternative SDS site (my wife is an administrator) on Facebook 'The Darkside of SDS aka www,originalstormtrooper.com there are the relevant parts of the judgement that he is now lying about.
defstartrooper
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exactly and that is what is so very sad about this,
that poor lad Dan it must horrific watching his Mothers Legacy being stripped away in public
EvilRocketeer
Master Member
now thats funny, couldnt have put it better myself without the Admin coming down on me :lol
Brian Muir
Well-Known Member
Ainsworth's latest post on Facebook discussion page concerning who did the moulds :-
Nick did the clay
I made the moulds
The moulds were NOT cast from the clay
I sculpted the moulds from the resin/metal dust material just as you might sculpt marble
Look at the moulds - they could not possibly be derived fron Nicks clay head.
Mould Ainsworth calls 'the original'
Pemberton's 'Stormtrooper' - the moulds couldn't possibly be derived from Nick's 'sculpt'
For once I actually agree with a point he has made because Nick's helmet was not moulded it was Liz Moore's clay sculpt that was moulded to make the Stormtrooper helmet.
His states his method was as you might sculpt marble mmmmmmmm what like the statue of Davidwith a ruler, cheesegrater and a grinder
Nick did the clay
I made the moulds
The moulds were NOT cast from the clay
I sculpted the moulds from the resin/metal dust material just as you might sculpt marble
Look at the moulds - they could not possibly be derived fron Nicks clay head.
Mould Ainsworth calls 'the original'
Pemberton's 'Stormtrooper' - the moulds couldn't possibly be derived from Nick's 'sculpt'
For once I actually agree with a point he has made because Nick's helmet was not moulded it was Liz Moore's clay sculpt that was moulded to make the Stormtrooper helmet.
His states his method was as you might sculpt marble mmmmmmmm what like the statue of David
with a ruler, cheesegrater and a grinder
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Jango Wes
Sr Member
Art, I understand where you are coming from but, after reading the FB page, it really seems that no amount of proof will sway his supporters. Plus, like someone else mentioned, every time something is brought up to dispute AA, more supporters seem to pop up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying stop putting the truth out there. It's definitely a battle worth fighting.
Wes
Wes
I would never suggest we try to take Andrew head on, especially not on his own Facebook page where he has the ability to delete at a whim. IN such cases:
"You can't win, but there are alternatives to fighting." ―Obi-Wan Kenobi
Again, it would take a group effort, but the ultimate question is what is trying to be achieved? Is the focus on trying to diminish Andrew's sales or is the focus about making the truth known to those who either don't know the score or might care about preserving the real history? Personally, it doesn't matter that much to me, but I am just pointing out that if we amassed, we can be a force to be reckoned with online and we could do things, as a community, to help ensure that the truth is out there and known. We have little ability to affect Andrew's sales, but from reading this thread it seems that the focus was more about preserving history than about trying to damage Andrew's sales. The decision would ultimately be that of the community, but if we wanted to do something, the site would support it. I leave it in your hands.
Now wouldnt that be a sight for sore eyes, if we were to get AA to the UK prop Party and situated around him posters of Liz Moore sculpting a Stormtrooper Helmet supplied to us by her Son Dan Dickenson........
oh please oh please oh please .............. let it happen
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
This is a quest for the truth for me and to prevent potential buyers from being duped by sales talk. To go into a sale with open eyes, so to speak. I'm not here to shut AA down or prevent him from selling. I'm only here to help give credit to the real artists and advise new buyers before jumping into a sale.
He'd still probably sell loads of helmets and armor, even if he let go of the claims that he sculpted the pieces or any of the other outlandish claims - he still IS the guy forming the armor back then and that's enough for some people.
He'd still probably sell loads of helmets and armor, even if he let go of the claims that he sculpted the pieces or any of the other outlandish claims - he still IS the guy forming the armor back then and that's enough for some people.
This is exactly the kind of mentality and approach that I believe could help us achieve something useful to potential buyers as well as those interested in knowing the true history of the creation of the stormtrooper.
Agree totally ..... my comment above was meant very tongue n Cheek
Let me do a bit of research and let's see just how much interest/support there is.
geordietrooper
Sr Member
people could sign up here http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=678788960#!/group.php?gid=367062635069
