Lone Survivor (Post-release)

The falls down the cliffsides are pretty accurate. Agreed, they wouldn't have jumped up and out, it would be more of a slide and tumble. Having gone 300 feet down a similar cliff myself, albeit inside the relative protection of a german car, I can attest to gravity being a cruel master of your fate in those moments.

There were plenty of problems with the mission that neither the film nor book go into. Many of which I'm not at liberty to discuss either, but suffice to say the powers that be are well aware of many mistakes made, and this particular community is rather good at learning from mistakes so as to not repeat them. Enough said there.

The end of the film is very dramatic, totally Hollywood. The reality is that Marcus spent quite a long time hiding in a cave before his protector in the village was able to get word out to US forces and organize a recovery. During that time he was constantly under threat of being turned over to Taliban, given dirty water to drink and rotten food to eat. He suffered more than a year afterward with various internal parasites as a result, not to mention the horrible physical condition he was in. There was no heroic run to a chopper under fire. He was barely able to walk at all with assistance. That's where the movie falls short of depicting how horrific the experience truly was.

There are other moments the movie falls short and the Hollywoodizing really didn't add to the story but took away from it. Mike didn't wander to the edge of a cliff rock to make his sat phone call for help, according to Marcus. Instead, they were in the bottom of the valley, and he stood and walked into fire in the middle of the kill zone to make the call, because he had no signal while in cover. He knew exactly what was going to happen, and made the sacrifice for his men. That seems to be corroborated by the physical evidence (blood, bullet impacts, etc) examined later at the scene by US forces.

I would have liked the movie to show how crappy Marcus was treated by some of the yahoos in his own home town after his return... he was provided with a CSA (comfort service animal) - a nice big fluffy dog, to help with his PTSD. Some local jerks decided it would be a good idea to break into his home and kill his dog.
They were pretty fortunate Marcus exercised restraint, because I can't see a court in America convicting him of anything, had he retaliated when he caught them.

Our heroes who have sacrificed deserve better than to be picked on and picked apart. Ultimately, Marcus is the only one who knows exactly what happened, but if he didn't make it back, the families would have none of the story at all. Speaking as one who is family of the fallen, I'd rather hear a colored story than be left wondering about it with no closure indefinitely.
 
I just watched this last night and not being familer with the book or the true events, I thought it was a very good movie. Very gritty, gory and emotional. My main question with the story is why was the job given to Navy Seals since the operation was nowhere near the sea? Wouldn't something like this mission have been given to the Army Rangers? I am not very adept at military strategy so I hope this is not a stupid question.
 
I just watched this last night and not being familer with the book or the true events, I thought it was a very good movie. Very gritty, gory and emotional. My main question with the story is why was the job given to Navy Seals since the operation was nowhere near the sea? Wouldn't something like this mission have been given to the Army Rangers? I am not very adept at military strategy so I hope this is not a stupid question.

SEALs (all caps because it's an acronym and a Seal is a marine pineped) perform all kinds of missions these days and proximity to the ocean has no bearing on them. They've been doing inland missions from pretty early on, as early as during Vietnam so this is not unusual at all. I'm not sure what the mission was, I haven't seen the movie or read the book, but Rangers are generally used for missions that require the firepower of something more akin to a regular infantry platoon or company and not a small commando force.
 
Just bought this on blue ray. Didn't notice that Marcus is IN the film... These guys are hardcore bad assess!! How can you still fight with a bullet wound in the back of your head!!!
 
SEAL stands for Sea, Air , or Land

And land.

SEALS have five main categories of missions:

Unconventional Warfare (UW) - Using guerilla warfare tactics in battle. Guerilla warfare is characterized by small, mobile combat groups that operate using often "unorthodox" battle methods like destroying enemy supplies, creating diversions, ambushing small enemy units, demolitions, and other "hit and run" types of operations.

Foreign Internal Defense (FID) - Training given to foreign nationals in order to build relationships. During Operation Desert Storm, Navy SEALs trained 13 Kuwaiti operators in maritime infiltration techniques in order to set up a secret meeting with local resistance contacts within Iraq-occupied Kuwait City.

Direct Action (DA) - Moving against an enemy target. This may include assaults on land- or water-based targets, hostage rescues, ambushes, etc.

Counterterrorism (CT) - Includes direct action against terrorist operations, antiterrorist actions for preventing terrorist acts, and protecting citizens and troops.

Special Reconnaissance (SR) - Includes conducting preliminary surveys to gather information, manning observation posts, and other types of surveillance, both overt and covert, where the goal is to gather information.This may include gathering hydrographic data (beach and water surveys) for landings or following an enemy unit and reporting its position.

Here's the official. Navy SEAL website for perusal, requirements, training, etc. NAVY SEALS - SEALSWCC.COM | Official Website U.S. Navy SEALs
 
Bought it on iTunes. But I am definitely a war flick guy. I love the action of some great movies. This is one of them.
What is guts wrenching (for me) is the sound they make while falling off the cliff. I mean, it sounds real. Everytime I watch that scene (once a week, that's why I buy some movies: I really watch them over and over, like Star Wars for example) I get the same gut wrenching feeling. Damn.

Oh I and I bought most of Luttrell's books as well (Chris Kyle's et cetera). I'm an avid Kindle reader.

Life is good.
 
Oh I and I bought most of Luttrell's books as well (Chris Kyle's et cetera). I'm an avid Kindle reader.

Life is good.

If you like reading military novels/accounts of real life military personnel then I can't highly recommend enough you read Joker One, it's the accounts of one Marine infantry platoon in the city of Ramadi during the Iraq war. It's written by the platoon leader and it gives a real honest account of what it was like for a line infantry platoon during the war, or at least during that period.
 
I thought this was a great movie and I'm glad it got made. Whether some parts were "exaggerated' or not falls short of the bigger picture. What some of our men and women go through needs to be shown from time to time so that the every day Joe and Jane can appreciate their sacrifice.

I'll say this, this movie made me think about buying a Leupold scope. Those things, and the ACOGs as well, took a BEATING falling down the mountain and still held zero. Supposedly, one of the SEALS scored a long distance kill shot even after all of the abuse his AR took. What a quality piece of glass.
 
If you like reading military novels/accounts of real life military personnel then I can't highly recommend enough you read Joker One, it's the accounts of one Marine infantry platoon in the city of Ramadi during the Iraq war. It's written by the platoon leader and it gives a real honest account of what it was like for a line infantry platoon during the war, or at least during that period.

Buying now (thanks!).
Not the same as Ambush Alley is it?
 
Buying now (thanks!).
Not the same as Ambush Alley is it?

I'm not familiar with Ambush Alley but I don't think it's the same. Joker One deals with just one platoon, 1st Platoon Joker Company, and their experience during first tour in Iraq with the author as its platoon leader.
 
Issues with accuracy aside, this was a great movie! Very emotional and intense. It has been a very long time since I saw a movie that created this much response from the audience, to the point that the entire audience clapped at the end. THAT is awesome, in my eyes, when a movie can move people like that. The falling down the mountain (twice) seemed way to dramatic iced, but otherwise, I was never pulled out of the story and even though you knew what was going to happen (just from the title alone) it was a great watch and a great story. Mark Wahlberg was very good, but , as usual, Ben Foster was just stellar and the standout character to me. This is definitely one to go see.

Ben Foster is the only one on that team that I believed. He was able to get that look in his eyes that a lot of actors just can't get for some reason.
 
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