Much thanks all.
this actually is a joker commision. But... along the way it occured to me that going from 0 to extreme joker was a mistake. Even if I did a good job of him as the joker, I would be missing out if i didn't just get away from the joker thing for a while and get to know him. So I stopped watching the Dark Knight altogether, and started watching interviews. and no still pictures. And as a result of that, I started getting a mental image of him memorized, and then I could sculpt him without constantly refering to some picture, just right off the top of my head. This method seems to work the best for me, cause when I do stare a pictures, I start to sculpt from a single camera lens point of view, and I sculpt some photo, not the person.
So, I will do the joker, but I will also sculpt him in a variety of facial poses. Some extreme, some not so extreme.
Ya, the title isn't very discriptive, but I just want the work to do the talking, no explination, just here it is.