'Heroes' Prop ID --- Hiro's Samurai Sword
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bondoking @ Jan 25 2007, 06:16 AM) [snapback]1404545[/snapback]</div>
Anyone with a dremel and about 5 minutes...
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dremels really aint made to cut through quarter inch brass are they?
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With the right attachment, most definitely.
Besides, my comment was more on the fact that that symbol looks like it was carved by a 4 year old than the fact that anyone with a dremel could make one. Seriously, it looks like crap.
Anyone with a dremel and about 5 minutes...
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dremels really aint made to cut through quarter inch brass are they?
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With the right attachment, most definitely.
Besides, my comment was more on the fact that that symbol looks like it was carved by a 4 year old than the fact that anyone with a dremel could make one. Seriously, it looks like crap.
Stampedemag
Active Member
Why do some of you guys put other people's work down like that? I think it is cool and love the program. I think it is one of the best shows on tv today.
It is one thing to critique a work but don't say it looks like crap. Make one better and then you can compare. Anyone can say anyone's work is crap and pick it apart.
It is one thing to critique a work but don't say it looks like crap. Make one better and then you can compare. Anyone can say anyone's work is crap and pick it apart.
Gotta agree with stampedmag, if you hate the prop that much, move along.
Anyway, doesn't take a 4 year old with a dremel 5 minutes - takes a 30 something with a laser 34 seconds.
Drew it up in AI and lasered it out of 1/16" plex to test the size and shape. I will try to get some brass and mill one out sometime soon.
Anyway, doesn't take a 4 year old with a dremel 5 minutes - takes a 30 something with a laser 34 seconds.
Drew it up in AI and lasered it out of 1/16" plex to test the size and shape. I will try to get some brass and mill one out sometime soon.
KidL
Well-Known Member
Whoa... Very nice Jmtwo. Definitely keep us posted please... :thumbsup
I actually like how 'rough' the symbol looks. I believe it was done on purpose to make it seem more like Japanese brush script rather than perfectly geometric. It's much more fitting for a 'legendary sword' IMO.
I actually like how 'rough' the symbol looks. I believe it was done on purpose to make it seem more like Japanese brush script rather than perfectly geometric. It's much more fitting for a 'legendary sword' IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KidL @ Jan 25 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]1404675[/snapback]</div>
Thanks, I will.
I agree 100% with the brush script.
Thanks, I will.
I agree 100% with the brush script.
Don't get me wrong, it's not the prop I don't like, it's the look of that piece. I'm not trying to insult whomever created the menuki for the prop sword. The only thing that really bugs me about the sword is the impracticality of it. Now that you mention it, I agree that it's supposed to look rough and ancient like brush script.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Chingon
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mechamaniac @ Jan 25 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]1404732[/snapback]</div>
Isn't that the case with most tv/film props? Sure, they look cool onscreen, but they're usually never practical when brought into the real world. Considering most here would just love to have a Hiro sword as a display piece, I think the fact that it wouldn't be practical to use as a real sword can be overlooked. Frankly, it seems silly to criticize this sword in that manner. You'd never say an airsoft gun is impractical because it can't be used to do the same thing a real firearm can do, would you?
Isn't that the case with most tv/film props? Sure, they look cool onscreen, but they're usually never practical when brought into the real world. Considering most here would just love to have a Hiro sword as a display piece, I think the fact that it wouldn't be practical to use as a real sword can be overlooked. Frankly, it seems silly to criticize this sword in that manner. You'd never say an airsoft gun is impractical because it can't be used to do the same thing a real firearm can do, would you?
KidL
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Chingon @ Jan 25 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]1404767[/snapback]</div>
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That's my reasoning as well. None of my sabers are practical in any way, but they sure do look the part. Does my hoverboard actually hover? No, in fact I'd be wary of even standing on it or treating it like an actual skateboard deck (as the details just aren't durable enough). Once I get a replica of Hiro's sword, I certainly won't be chopping anything up with it... although... my steel synasp Begins Batarangs are about as functional as you can get (my apartment has the battle damage to prove it
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Coz
Sr Member
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(neosporing @ Jan 24 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]1404077[/snapback]</div>
Viewers have caught a glimpse of future Hiro with a sword, and while some wielding seems almost guaranteed, Masi Oka (Hiro) hasn't had to brush up on any weapon training.
"Nothing yet, " he confirms. "I know the writers want me to start retraining in my Kendo ways, or particularly in Iado, which is more of the ceremonial sword fighting.
Kendo is much more fencing and rugged."
(Quoted from interview in Cult Times magazine, #137, Feb).
C.
Viewers have caught a glimpse of future Hiro with a sword, and while some wielding seems almost guaranteed, Masi Oka (Hiro) hasn't had to brush up on any weapon training.
"Nothing yet, " he confirms. "I know the writers want me to start retraining in my Kendo ways, or particularly in Iado, which is more of the ceremonial sword fighting.
Kendo is much more fencing and rugged."
(Quoted from interview in Cult Times magazine, #137, Feb).
C.
trekkieb47
Well-Known Member
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jmtwo @ Jan 25 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]1404657[/snapback]</div>
WOW... sign me up.
Berry
Gotta agree with stampedmag, if you hate the prop that much, move along.
Anyway, doesn't take a 4 year old with a dremel 5 minutes - takes a 30 something with a laser 34 seconds.
Drew it up in AI and lasered it out of 1/16" plex to test the size and shape. I will try to get some brass and mill one out sometime soon.
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WOW... sign me up.
Berry
Drago Lordist
Well-Known Member
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jmtwo @ Jan 25 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]1404657[/snapback]</div>
curse you lucky guy with a laser. :cry
takes a 30 something with a laser 34 seconds.
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curse you lucky guy with a laser. :cry
Onigiri
Sr Member
I think what they were going for was the 'katatemaki' (Battle wrap) look but they didnt knowwhat they were doing. In Katatemaki teh diamond wrap goies for about three diamonds and then wraps solid midway for a bit and then finishes with three diamons (usually). The menuki are either attached on top of teh wrap or woven in to the wrap. My guess is they didnt know how to achieve the look they wanted and fudged it. The other explanation being being that the wrap on teh 'antique' sword was damaged and simply secured as is.
This was evident on many GI WW2 bringbacks wherein the wrap was damaged from somebody looking for the 'prayer papers' (small paper triangles under teh wrap. Not actually prayer papers merely hishigami used to give body to the wrap and help anchor it). Sometimes teh wrap was cut because the gi thought that the menuki was more valuable then the sword and were going to try and and pry it off. Regardless of the whys and wherefors the sword as it appears in Heroes is dangerous to use.
Also, all three sets of armor shown were also Paul Chen/Hanwei Forge and are available from CASIBERIA.
The armor teh sword was on is their latest offering, the Dragon armor and retails for about 2800.
Hope this helps.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Drago Lordist @ Jan 25 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]1404968[/snapback]</div>
curse you lucky guy with a laser. :cry
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This was evident on many GI WW2 bringbacks wherein the wrap was damaged from somebody looking for the 'prayer papers' (small paper triangles under teh wrap. Not actually prayer papers merely hishigami used to give body to the wrap and help anchor it). Sometimes teh wrap was cut because the gi thought that the menuki was more valuable then the sword and were going to try and and pry it off. Regardless of the whys and wherefors the sword as it appears in Heroes is dangerous to use.
Also, all three sets of armor shown were also Paul Chen/Hanwei Forge and are available from CASIBERIA.
The armor teh sword was on is their latest offering, the Dragon armor and retails for about 2800.
Hope this helps.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Drago Lordist @ Jan 25 2007, 11:50 PM) [snapback]1404968[/snapback]</div>
takes a 30 something with a laser 34 seconds.
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curse you lucky guy with a laser. :cry
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neosporing
Sr Member
yes, i didn't mean to offend. Iove the show and am relieved that Hero (actor) knows the difference between aido and kendo... could be interesting...
I don't think you can compare the designs of lightsaber hilts and katana hilts...
What i ment to say was that Katana's have generations of work, refinment and art put into them. Just looking up 'tsuba' on google will yield plenty examples of what I'm talking about. What I was making reference to when i said it looks like they didn't spend any time on the prop is more from a sword collectors perspective than a 'prop' perspective. Any sword collector can identify the Chen Practical Plus Tsuba.. nothing special or done by artist... (not that chen isn't an artist) just that PPK tsuba is fairly generic and not rare or crafted like many, many, many other katana's out there.
From a prop persepective, it is cool and wouldn't mind having a 'rat-tail' wall hanger version... but as a sword collector/ prop collector i can't help but feel that a fantastic opportunity to create a classic sword/prop was wasted just to highlight the 'hero menuki'
speaking of which, jimtwo.. i'll take 10 of them if they ever go to the JY. (gonna replace my honda emblem with one lol).. if you sell em..(any stainless steel versions?)
again sorry to those i've offended.. don't get me wrong, i love 'Heros.'
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Onigiri @ Jan 25 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]1405025[/snapback]</div>
I don't think you can compare the designs of lightsaber hilts and katana hilts...
What i ment to say was that Katana's have generations of work, refinment and art put into them. Just looking up 'tsuba' on google will yield plenty examples of what I'm talking about. What I was making reference to when i said it looks like they didn't spend any time on the prop is more from a sword collectors perspective than a 'prop' perspective. Any sword collector can identify the Chen Practical Plus Tsuba.. nothing special or done by artist... (not that chen isn't an artist) just that PPK tsuba is fairly generic and not rare or crafted like many, many, many other katana's out there.
From a prop persepective, it is cool and wouldn't mind having a 'rat-tail' wall hanger version... but as a sword collector/ prop collector i can't help but feel that a fantastic opportunity to create a classic sword/prop was wasted just to highlight the 'hero menuki'
speaking of which, jimtwo.. i'll take 10 of them if they ever go to the JY. (gonna replace my honda emblem with one lol).. if you sell em..(any stainless steel versions?)
again sorry to those i've offended.. don't get me wrong, i love 'Heros.'
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Onigiri @ Jan 25 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]1405025[/snapback]</div>
Let the mayhem begin. I found a Chen knockoff for $30 and it looks like it will work fine.
I just have to dissassemble, paint the skin black, rewrap with leather and attach the menuki. Shouldn't be that hard of a conversion. I haven't cut the menuki out of brass yet since I wanted to wait until I had sword in hand to make sure I had the size right. I think it looks pretty good.
I might actually get this done, before the real sword makes an appearance on the show.
Just for the curious - if you search "radiant sunburst tsuba" on Ebay you should find it available frequently.
I just have to dissassemble, paint the skin black, rewrap with leather and attach the menuki. Shouldn't be that hard of a conversion. I haven't cut the menuki out of brass yet since I wanted to wait until I had sword in hand to make sure I had the size right. I think it looks pretty good.
I might actually get this done, before the real sword makes an appearance on the show.
Just for the curious - if you search "radiant sunburst tsuba" on Ebay you should find it available frequently.
CGClone
Sr Member
Nice find JMtwo.
Anyone watch "Mythbusters" lately?
They recently busted the myth of a sword being able to break another sword. They had a couple of Paul Chen practice swords on there and did some damage with them. Also showed some masters mat-cutting and so forth, was a great episode, all I could think of was this thread. LOL.
Anyone watch "Mythbusters" lately?
They recently busted the myth of a sword being able to break another sword. They had a couple of Paul Chen practice swords on there and did some damage with them. Also showed some masters mat-cutting and so forth, was a great episode, all I could think of was this thread. LOL.
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