Harrmy's Star Wars Despecialized 2.5
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rodneyfaile
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I can only imagine how the people who actually did the work on the original must feel.
Can you imagine if someone did that to another movie? How about Casablanca, with CGI Justin Beiber playing piano, and Ugarte shoots first. At the end, Rick yells "Nooooo" as a CGI plane takes off.
Can you imagine if someone did that to another movie? How about Casablanca, with CGI Justin Beiber playing piano, and Ugarte shoots first. At the end, Rick yells "Nooooo" as a CGI plane takes off.
Lazerblade
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Please PM me with the sources. Very much appreciated.
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
Solo4114
Master Member
I think you guys can relax. Lucas is out of the movie-making game now. Like, fully out, I think. IF he does anything, it'll just be the Edutopia stuff and the George Lucas Foundation. I can get behind all of that. I'm all for improving education (assuming what he supports actually does that). But I really think he just got tired of the whole movie scene and tired of the few movies he had to his name.
A part of me can't help but wonder if maybe he wasn't chasing the dragon, so to speak, as he kept tinkering away. Maybe the experience of making the prequels didn't live up to what he wanted. Maybe he tinkered and tinkered with the OT and decided, screw it, he was NEVER gonna be happy with it no matter what kind of tinkering he did. Who knows.
But the bottom line is that the Lucas-driven "Put a rock in front of him. Give the gun a magnum sound. No, wait. Take the magnum sound away" changes are done with. It's all in Disney's hands now. Kathleen Kennedy may be running LucasFilm, and I expect that she'll respect Lucas' wishes to a certain degree, but the endless tinkering is over.
I dunno. My problem was never the tinkering. My problem was the tinkering AND the refusal to release theatrical versions. I actually would welcome the "Let's see what George came up with this time!" game IF I could still watch the version I like -- the originals. It's this void that Harmy and others have filled, at least until an official OOT-restored release comes out. But if he'd always released Star Wars with the OOT in pristine condition...I wouldn't have cared if he tinkered on the side or offered branching to this or that tinkered version.
A part of me can't help but wonder if maybe he wasn't chasing the dragon, so to speak, as he kept tinkering away. Maybe the experience of making the prequels didn't live up to what he wanted. Maybe he tinkered and tinkered with the OT and decided, screw it, he was NEVER gonna be happy with it no matter what kind of tinkering he did. Who knows.
But the bottom line is that the Lucas-driven "Put a rock in front of him. Give the gun a magnum sound. No, wait. Take the magnum sound away" changes are done with. It's all in Disney's hands now. Kathleen Kennedy may be running LucasFilm, and I expect that she'll respect Lucas' wishes to a certain degree, but the endless tinkering is over.
I dunno. My problem was never the tinkering. My problem was the tinkering AND the refusal to release theatrical versions. I actually would welcome the "Let's see what George came up with this time!" game IF I could still watch the version I like -- the originals. It's this void that Harmy and others have filled, at least until an official OOT-restored release comes out. But if he'd always released Star Wars with the OOT in pristine condition...I wouldn't have cared if he tinkered on the side or offered branching to this or that tinkered version.
So that the sand people don't see him? Which begs the question. If those rocks are that compact enough, how did he get in there?
Darth Lars
Master Member
We discussed over on originaltrilogy.org whether that call really was of a "Krayt Dragon"...
The word "Krayt" or "Dragon" is not mentioned in the script. It is not even mentioned that the sound was from Obi-Wan, only that the Tuskens were scared of him.
The earliest source of a "Krayt Dragon Call" scaring the Tuskens that I could find is it being spelled out in the radio drama from 1981.
I always thought that the call was of a Tusken standing sentry on the rock above yelling to warn his comrades below, and I still think that is the most straightforward explanation of what happens in the scene.
Solo4114
Master Member
I think the problem is that they used the same sound for the dewbacks in one of the other scenes. Either in Mos Eisley when they walk into the Cantina, or in the scene with the sandtroopers out on patrol.
I think that's why he changed it -- it was because the sound didn't make sense as something that'd frighten the Sand People. Why would they care if a guy shouted a loud dewback noise? They might as well freak out about him making jawa noises or bantha noises.
Of course, what WOULD have made more sense would've been to change the DEWBACK noise to something else, and leave the loud yell the same in the Obi-Wan scene.
But I suppose it's too late now. Frankly, it never really bothered me. I mean, I suppose you COULD say that the sand people got wigged out when tehy see a regular guy making weird animal noises. After all, Ben says that "Sand people are easily startled." So, they see this shuffling old loony approach them hooting like a dewback, and they figure "Screw this. We're outta here." Works for me.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
I've heard they are easily startled.
Jaitea
Master Member
Yeah...it's crazy
If they really had to tinker with the film, theres loads of continuity mistakes they could have addressed instead of creating more!!!
J
Jaitea
Master Member
Yep, it does & the skeleton that 3PO stands near to in the desert is meant to be whats left of one.....not sure if this was painted after Star Wars, but 'THE MAN' Ralph McQuarrie painted this little scene:
J
I always assumed it was a force trick. Similar to what he did with the stormtroopers on the death star.
He may have looked like an old loony hooting like a dewback to us, but to the Sand People he was a fifty foot tall angel of death bearing down on them.
I have all three, but not sure if I have the latest ANH version...
Either way... I LOVE them, and can't watch the SE much anymore. The SE had some things I liked and didn't mind at all (X wings passing Yavin on the way to death star), and some of the space combat fixed I liked, but the Greedo... bad looking Jabba, and other crud kills me.
I don't even mind the expansion of Mos Eisley... I totally get that, but the droid hit and other baloney... ugh.
Now someone needs to do HD mastered versions of the Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom and then I can watch the prequels again.
Either way... I LOVE them, and can't watch the SE much anymore. The SE had some things I liked and didn't mind at all (X wings passing Yavin on the way to death star), and some of the space combat fixed I liked, but the Greedo... bad looking Jabba, and other crud kills me.
I don't even mind the expansion of Mos Eisley... I totally get that, but the droid hit and other baloney... ugh.
Now someone needs to do HD mastered versions of the Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom and then I can watch the prequels again.
Solo4114
Master Member
My "edit" to the prequels is to basically edit them out of existence. I find the focus on Anakin and how his character is portrayed to be basically irredeemable.
JoMamma_Smurf
Master Member
I watched this yesterday. I literally cried I was so happy to see this. Even the 20th century fox logo is correct... It's beautiful :cry
Krayt dragon imitation or not (although the Radio Drama is a pretty strong secondary source), it was most certainly Obi-Wan. Whether he was using the Force, his lungs, or a kazoo really doesn't matter--he scared away the Tuskens. They wouldn't have edited the scene that way otherwise (sound, tuskens look up, shot of Obi-Wan approaching, Tuskens run).
But without going into all that, in 9 words everyone knew what I was talking about.
