Green Lantern - what went wrong? ...and the sequel...

Another Treadwell come lately here...

I just caught up via Netflix. It wasn't nearly bad as I'd heard/feared. I even liked it better than Thor (which isn't saying much). Not nearly as bad as the FF films.

Now, am I gonna buy the Blu-ray? Nah.
 
BTW, the Fantastic Four has at least one very powerful story element to mine for a feature length film: The fact that Ben Grimm agrees to help his friend Reed Richards fly a ship into deep space... and instead of finding glory, winds up being transformed into a grotesque looking monster called The Thing. Reed's responsible for his best friend losing his humanity and vows to try and cure his friend of his cosmic ray disfigurement... that's a rich and emotionally galvanizing story to anchor a movie... enriched by larger than life Jack Kirby-esque machinery and super villains. It would take a director with a true fan's love for the FF and the visionary skill to really capture the original Lee/Kirby world. But, my God, what an amazing movie there is to make! Hope they get it right when they attempt the inevitable reboot.

Very true, and they definitely played with Ben's condition (and the related drama) in the comics, especially in terms of how Johnny sort of got away unscathed and could still pull girls and such. They touched on that to a small extent, as I recall, in the first film, but they just never really sold it story-wise. The balance of elements wasn't quite right, which is a shame again because, with the exception of Jessica Alba, I thought the rest of the cast had pretty solid acting chops -- they just weren't really able to exercise them in THIS film. Similar problems to the Green Lantern flick.

And I hear you on Berlanti's contribution. If the script went through that many different writers, that alone could be a BIG part of the problem as elements stay and others go, and plot-points and pivotal scenes get cut and spliced together.




Side note:

There are certain comics that I think are well suited to the big screen. There are others, however, that I think would do FAR better with a more episodic format and, perhaps, a slightly lower budget (but along the lines of HBO shows, rather than a sitcom). Green Lantern (and Green Lantern Corps) and FF are both titles that I think would benefit far more from a properly done high-production, small-screen project. And Daredevil ESPECIALLY would do well with his own series.
 
Another Treadwell come lately here...

I just caught up via Netflix. It wasn't nearly bad as I'd heard/feared. I even liked it better than Thor (which isn't saying much). Not nearly as bad as the FF films.

Now, am I gonna buy the Blu-ray? Nah.

See, I had the exact opposite reaction. I found this to be one of the worst superhero films I'd seen mostly because it was just a very boring film in general (setting aside the superhero elements). And I actually generally enjoyed Thor (although I think that's because it gave me exactly what I expected). It wasn't fantastic or on the order of some other films, but it really wasn't bad.

What'd you like about Green Lantern and what'd you dislike about Thor? I'm genuinely curious, given our very different reactions to the two films.
 
Well, there wasn't as much "like" as "not dislike". :lol

I think they did an okay job with the Corps, and giving a few of the recurring GLs their bits. (Mind you, I've never read the comic, so most of my GL knowledge comes from the animated series and videos.) Was fun to see Kilowog do his R. Lee Ermy thing, for instance. (But where was the squirrel? :lol)

Yeah, Hal Jordan wasn't all that heroic pre-ring like in the source material, but you know movie characters and their arcs. I'm always mildly annoyed by Ryan Reynolds anyway, so I might've just attributed anything bothersome about the character to the actor instead and wrote it off. I did hate the scientist bad guy, and his entire subplot---that just didn't work on any level.

But the story did flow, more or less. I was bored to tears with Thor. Maybe GL just felt paced/edited better, and it doesn't go any deeper.
 
Basically, not everything translate to the big screen -- this character is a great example of that.

Really, the only willpower that works well on screen is the ****ing Force or Rocky Balboa's determination, not making green glowing guns (or Hot Wheels tracks, for that matter).
 
I dunno, man; space cops with magic rings that can do anything is hard to mess up. GL isn't Citizen Kane, but I'm sure the second one will be better-received.
 
"I'm sure it'll be better next time."

Hey, I use that line at work and at home, Larry!
 
I will say I've never been big on GL constructs. (Which would not be the film's fault, of course.) If you're throwing up an energy shield, all it needs to be is a barrier. Why spend energy (or "will") making it look like something King Arthur would carry? Or just hit the bad guy with a blast of energy, don't bother making it look like a fist. Lame.
 
What went Wrong? I never saw it and don't want to. When I saw who was cast, the costume, and previews, I felt there was no need to see it.
Right there is a problem. When the stuff that is supposed to make you go, makes you stay away, then they screwed something up.

Green Lantern, Green Hornet, FF, Catwoman... and others No Thanks.
 
i really felt the movie had a very 'cut down' feel to it,
the clearest example would be the two scenes,
firstly, the lab where paralax and hal fight.. he just busts in through the wall and they throw down right then, no real strong indication of how hal found out about the lab location.

the second would be the warehouse battle scene near the end, again, just really rushed feeling, the scene was good, but the lead up to the scene? it didnt feel right
 
If you're throwing up an energy shield, all it needs to be is a barrier. Why spend energy (or "will") making it look like something King Arthur would carry? Or just hit the bad guy with a blast of energy, don't bother making it look like a fist. Lame.

Not to argue deliberately but... ;)

The comics were originally for kids right? So I suppose the shield looking like a medieval shield was intentional so the kids would recognize it (same with the fist). Now I guess it has become tradition that GL's constructs look like everyday objects we can identify with.

That, and I would suppose that if I was a GL and I needed to create a shield with my mind (for the ring to interpret it) the first thing I would think of is a classic shield.

Mind you... I still haven't watched this movie. I'm just going off the Saturday morning Superfriends cartoon and Justice League International comics I used to buy. :)


Kevin
 
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