Dirt-cheap R2-D2 bicolour dome light

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So. One of R2-D2's notable features is a circular two-colour light under his eye. On the original physical props these had red and blue gels that would slide back and forth, changing the colour of the light. Builders of full-sized R2 replicas call this light a "PSI" for "process state indicator," and generally use Arduinos programmed to drive blue and red LEDs that simulate the effect.

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For a small R2 model (the Bandai 1:12 R2), I wanted to avoid the expense and hassle of programming an Arduino just to get the effect. Plus even the smallest board is too big for the tiny model, and most microcontrollers run at 5 volts, not off two AAs or a 3v lithium.

So I considered a few things:

- You can buy super cheap kits which use a 555 timer and a 4017 decade counter to drive a sequence of 10 LEDs. The 10 sequential outputs could be used to drive a pair of LEDs, which could alternate. But then you have a circuit board which won't fit inside a small R2 model.

- You can get 3mm LEDs which automatically flash, alternating between red and blue. Compact, simple, and they run off two AAs. However they don't dim between colours, and the flash rate is much too fast. R2-D2 on speed!

- You can get 3mm tricolour RGB LEDs which slowly cycle through a sequence of colours. Again, these require no external circuits and can run off 3 volts. But the green light in the sequence is wrong.

So I got to thinking, what if you got rid of the green diode altogether? After all, tricolour LEDs contain three separate diodes housed inside a single transparent case. The tiny silicon die making up the diode is wired using an unbelievably thin wire.

And that was the answer! I examined the lit LED carefully, figured out which side the green diode was on, and roughly filed that side of the LED flat. Then I used a 0.3mm drill and slowly drilled a tiny hole into the LED, testing as I went, until I severed the wire that powered the green diode.

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Done! I now have a 3mm LED that runs off 3 volts, and which slowly fades continuously between red and blue. The one drawback is that there's a short period where no light is emitted at all, as that's the point in the sequence when the green diode would have been lit alone. But since R2's light occasionally looks like it's off, I figure that's good enough.

Now, this doesn't help with the rear dome PSI (yellow and green), nor the flickering fibre optic lights. But for less than £1, this is a pretty zero-effort solution. Hope this helps someone!
 
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Brilliant! I have one of these that I bought at the dollar store and until now had no idea what to do with it!

I'm gonna run it with fiber optics to my 48th scale Bandai R2!

Thank you so much for posting this!

Thomas
 
The original R2's had 2 colored light bulbs with a divider between them, and were switched back and forth with what looked to me like a turn signal module from an old car.
 
Hm. I was going by:

"In the original R2s, there was a mechanical shutter, with a red and blue gel that wiped across the light to change color. In some shots this has been turned off, mainly because it was noisy, and you can see the light is part red and blue. By ESB, the setup is different, with 2 lights, one with a red gel the other blue, and a circuit to switch them back and forth. One colour fades out while the other colour fades in."

http://www.robotbuilders.net/r2/FAQ/r2_compleat_faq_v12.htm#_Toc11840580
 
I stand corrected. Don is certainly more knowledgable than about R2 than I.
The dome I repaired must have been from ESB then. We had all the R2s in the shop at the time in pieces, so it was hard to tell.
 
Yup. I was in the ILM modelshop for 14 years. I was repairing one of the R2s used for public appearances that had fallen over backwards, and had dented the dome at an event.
 
That must've traumatised the kids! R2's fallen over - and he can't get up!

Anyway. Very cool, though. But isn't it risky admitting you worked at ILM at a place like this? Can we pester you with nerdy questions about ILM miniatures? :)
 
For me screen accurate is less important as I figure if I use this handy tip in 48th and 72nd scale through a fibre optic it will improve the model greatly!

Obviously it's totally not screen-accurate, though it's closer to ESB than ANH. Probably not enough red, the slow transition makes it look magenta/purple at times, and it goes off for a bit. But again, this is a 3mm LED you can power by a 3 volt lithium cell inside a Bandai R2. So, compromises.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0mJtooCBm1PY04yWnZERXRieW8/view
 
That must've traumatised the kids! R2's fallen over - and he can't get up!

Anyway. Very cool, though. But isn't it risky admitting you worked at ILM at a place like this? Can we pester you with nerdy questions about ILM miniatures? :)

Naw, everyone has been pretty cool here. I'm happy to share what I know. It would be hypocritical of me to not admit to being a nerd myself.
 
Awesome. :) So would you have any insight into the 5' Falcon model? Or was that before your stint there? I'm particularly interested in the changes that occurred to the model between ANH and ESB.

https://sites.google.com/site/millenniumfalconnotes/the-models

Unfortunately that was before my time. (I started there in '93) I've done repairs to the 2 foot Falcon and various other models, but there are members here that know a lot more about the details on the Falcon than I do.
 
Incidentally I should point out that if you make the Bandai R2 permanently two legged or three legged and remove the moving leg mechanism there's tons of room for an Arduino should you want a more realistic setup...
 
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If a standard arduino UNO or similar is too big, you can either get the Nano version (which can also be run off 3v) or you could opt to export the Arduino system to a micro controller (e.g. ATtiny45, ATtiny 2313, or the ATmega chips). The chips cost anywhere from a couple cents up to a couple dollars, depending on which one you go with. Which chip is the right one depends on how many outputs you need, the ATtiny is about the size of the tip of your finger and will give you 5 outputs, all the way up to an ATmega 328, which is the same chip that you see on the arduino board, that will give you all the same outputs that an Arduino will give you, and is for all essential purposes the same as the arduino itself, just reduced to the chip.

I have done this countless times and once you get the hang of it it is really easy, and the best part is that you do not have to bury your 20-30 dollar arduino in your model. I have even done this to light up the Star Trek 2500 scale models, which was really a challange at times.

shrinkify your arduino
Arduino on a breadboard
 
That is true - these things are getting smaller and smaller, and more capable! But I still think a single 3mm LED and coin cell are hard to beat size-wise. :) Even if they're much less flexible.
 
Looks very good indeed. especially the two bicolor lights look mighty convincing.

If you asked me to be picky, the only thing that I could think of, is that all lights have a syncronous blink rate. It might look more realistic if they had different or random blinking patterns. But like I said, that is just being picky, It looks fantastic just as it is.Well done. :)
 
Hey - don't congratulate me. I had nothing to do with that video - that was by another forum member. :)
 
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