Vaders_Happy
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Please can anyone tell / show me the differences in the PPK over the films. I need to know what they are between Dr No & TND shape/ size / colour of grips etc. I know someone here knows, please share 
Differences in Bonds PPK Help please
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_firearms
About half way down the page you will see the heading Films, there you will find a complete list of all of the Bond guns film by film.
About half way down the page you will see the heading Films, there you will find a complete list of all of the Bond guns film by film.
great,
i am making a display out of a ppk and a Beretta, both from MGC.
i needed that info bad. :lol
but i always assumed the Berretta was a 1934 in 32 cal.
They imply it was a Jetfire type in 25 cal.
gotta dig up my DR NO book. :lol
all the books said was a Berretta with taped grips and suppressor.
caliber smaller than the 380 PPK.
john :cool
i am making a display out of a ppk and a Beretta, both from MGC.
i needed that info bad. :lol
but i always assumed the Berretta was a 1934 in 32 cal.
They imply it was a Jetfire type in 25 cal.
gotta dig up my DR NO book. :lol
all the books said was a Berretta with taped grips and suppressor.
caliber smaller than the 380 PPK.
john :cool
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jheilman
Sr Member
I remember a story in a gun mag many years back talking specifically about that scene in Dr. No. They said the actual Beretta used in that scene did not agree with the descriptions in the dialog and by swapping the Beretta for the Walther, Bond was actually accepting a gun with a lower caliber. Can't recall more details.
Noeland
Master Member
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Walther_PP_Pistol_Series
You can see the guns from each bond film on this site too.
You can see the guns from each bond film on this site too.
Serafino
Sr Member
VH--the Beretta of the books is most likely not the Jetfire., although Fleming's description is ambiguous.
According to the books Bond had had a .25 Beretta since the mid-40s, the Jetfire-style didn't appear until the early 50s, while the model 1919/418 type seen below had been around since the in various forms since the 1920s. Admittedly the 'sawn barrel' idea seems to make more sense in application to the Jetfire, so there's the ambiguity.
Ah, I'm glad to see the wiki article focuses on the 418. If indeed Fleming had a .25 Beretta during the war, it would have had to have been a 418. I wish the article gave references for this claim, I can find no hard factual reports regarding what guns Fleming had experience with. One source claims that Fleming only knew the Beretta .25 because his mother (or some other relative) kept one at one point.
According to the books Bond had had a .25 Beretta since the mid-40s, the Jetfire-style didn't appear until the early 50s, while the model 1919/418 type seen below had been around since the in various forms since the 1920s. Admittedly the 'sawn barrel' idea seems to make more sense in application to the Jetfire, so there's the ambiguity.
Ah, I'm glad to see the wiki article focuses on the 418. If indeed Fleming had a .25 Beretta during the war, it would have had to have been a 418. I wish the article gave references for this claim, I can find no hard factual reports regarding what guns Fleming had experience with. One source claims that Fleming only knew the Beretta .25 because his mother (or some other relative) kept one at one point.
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IIRC the Berretta 1934 was avaliable then only in 380 / 9mm kurz {short} which was bigger than the PPK which was originaly in 32 cal auto. i am not sure when it came out in 380. I had a PPKs which held one more round to bypass the Saturday Night Special laws for importing ,
the mention of a "sawn barrel and taped grip" the taped grip would be to hold the grip saftey down so you could fire it with your grip on it not being perfect. a problem with common with pistold with grip safteys.
so that goes back to the 418 since no others had the grip saftey.
it always seemed funny to me that my hero carried a 25 auto. :lol
john :cool
the mention of a "sawn barrel and taped grip" the taped grip would be to hold the grip saftey down so you could fire it with your grip on it not being perfect. a problem with common with pistold with grip safteys.
so that goes back to the 418 since no others had the grip saftey.
it always seemed funny to me that my hero carried a 25 auto. :lol
john :cool
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Vaders_Happy
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thanks, the problem is that unless I'm doing it wrong, and I might, the article shows the same picture for each film ( that it mentions). Was there any difference / changes in design in the ppk over the time of the films? Also what colour grips were used? I understand Daltons had brown grips but don't know for sure. Did any have black?
Vaders_Happy
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Anyone?
Noeland
Master Member
No, there were no design differences in the PPK over the time of the film. There are different models of the PPK, some longer, some shorter, but Bond always favored the shorter version.
Grips are interchangable, but the difference in color might just be attributed to one being the hero gun with brown grips, and the other being a rubber stunt gun.
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