Can you help identify this Stormtrooper Helmet? (lots of pics)

shabad

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A chap here in VA bought this helmet on eBay. It was listed as a "Stunt" I thought at first it was a RT mod but it doesn't match up. It's a 4 piece - dome and back, face and ear construction. The details are really soft except for the frown which has more depth than a RT Mod. It's a painted styrene construction that has some deformities and a thin spot like a baby soft spot on the head > eww. Nice hovi cast aerators. Pale blue tube stripes, weird wide textured neck trim, thick RT like brow trim and it's slightly bigger than most stunt helmets. It's monstrously hideous and I'm curious about the origins. Is it re-cast? Is it an original? Here are the pics:

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What looks like strange light on this shot is actually drip like line on the helmet.

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This is sunlight through the thin spot

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It could be made better with some repair and better trimming and new neck and frown trim...
 
Yep, all the details are very soft except the frown which isn't bad. I've never seen a Movie FX up close, maybe...
 
What an awful helmet - about the softest I've seen and those earcaps are foul.
Don't even think the MFX is as bad as this.
Looks like a (bad) recast of an RTMOD.
 
seeing as the rt-mod is a 4 piece, I'm gonna go w/ mfx. In fact, I'm looking at both right now on my shelf and I'm pretty certain its a mfx. The textured trim is car 'door' edge trim. Its the same stuff you see on fx suits.
 
So it's a really bad MovieFX. Looking at Star Wars Helmets there are similarities, enough that it's probably a match but the MFX helmets on SWH look better than this one and at least had the correct brow trim.
 
Defo not an RT IMHO...

The ear caps stick way out too much to be one of those...

Looking at the MFX on Jez's site... it looks more like that..
 
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Defo not an RT IMHO...

The ear caps stick way out too much to be one of those...

Looking at the MFX on Jez's site... it looks more like that..
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The ears look like an RT Mod to me, but it does look a Movie FX although the eyes are not trimmed out enough which could give the appearance of a Movie FX.
 
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The ears look like an RT Mod to me, but it does look a Movie FX although the eyes are not trimmed out enough which could give the appearance of a Movie FX.
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Joe, the ears do look like an RT, but the grey caps stick out way too much...

That's the bit I meant..
 
Joe, the ears do look like an RT, but the grey caps stick out way too much...

That's the bit I meant..
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I see what you mean mate. I was looking at the shape and ridge of the round part of the ear piece.

On second glance the decals look the same as the RT Mod and the chin area is painted in exactly the same shape as the RT chin decal.
 
i would say this is the new anh moviefx helmet that he ( whos name should not be spoken )........ is offering over here at the moment
hes also using a new plastic and its terrible its almost translucent
put a light bulb in itll make a great table lamp

jay
 
The RTMOD has more parts but it's a recast - dome was put on the back before it was copied probably.
I was one of the few people that have actually managed to receive a MFX helmet without Guidon Stealing my money - I can say for sure it's not an MFX.
It's been fiddled about with but it's definately a copy of an RTMOD...
 
I agree, the really pronounced ridge along the back is fair evidence of that. I've seen people make an FX copy with a one part cap/back. It'd be easy enough. I like to call these type of things "Soft-serve" helmets, since they look like a melty soft-serve ice cream cone.
 
Plus the paint has all kinds of drips just like soft serve :p

Thanks for all the input on this helmet, it's not going to make my friend any more pleased about it but at least I can feel you've solved some of the mystery.
 
Hello,
OUCH... I didn't think it was that bad :( I can answer your question, I made it. I've been a lurker here for years, and just recently joined, so it looks like this is my official welcome to the RPF board. I have owned several types of helmets over the years from the standard FX/GT, and RT Mod, Don Post, an unk fiberglass bucket, and at one time a GF. I can also answer NO, I do not recast them, and feel that recasting is in fact a form of theft that I would not wish to be a victim of. About a year and a half ago I purchased a plaster TK face mold from a Chicago area antique / resale / collectibles store owner that co-sponsors a local toy/collectible shows. He had purchased a large lot of Star Trek prop items including resin kits and various RTV molds from a contact in California. The mold was in rather poor condition and upon comparing it to the helmets I had at the time, it most resembled the face from my Don Post Classic Action Tie pilot. Not knowing the origin of the mold and fearing the lable "recaster" (as is common to noobs on various prop and costume boards), I used the mold to make two .125 ABS pulls over each other then backfilled the second with ultracal. I did my best to clean up and refine the details on the now larger and resculpted face plate. The dome was a cutdown heavily modified and bondo'd baseball helmet that was vac'd and again back filled (I also use a .125 shell with the indents cut out for detail and better release). The back was a piece of MDF supported cardboard sonitube, with plaster filled flexible Home Depot vinyl tubing added, then vac'd over and back filled. The ear caps are straight up laminated MDF. I had the choice of FX, Don Post CA Storm, or RT Mod to use as size reference, so I went with the most accurate of the choices, the RT. I will absolutely admit that I spent as much time and effort as I could measuring and tweaking as much detail as I could to replicate the RT Mod, but did not recast. The decals were Hand drawn, also using the RT for reference, and produced by a local sign shop. The molds are actually much better than the finished product, but my home built vac table is the problem.
Shabad, I was not aware your friend was displeased with the helmet, I would've hoped he'd contacted me about it.
Most of the helmets I've made have gone to friends, family or donated to various local charity auctions not E-bay. This helmet was displayed in my son's room and I had listed it only after I made him a new ABS one.
Forgive the extensive post, and I don't intend to sound upset, I'm just a bit disappointed after spending months trying to make a decent replica. I have seen these things get ugly and wanted those reading to understand that after years of lurking, I am on board with the gentleman's rules to prop building. I'm sure, as a noob, I'll be forced to scan the construction pics for documented evidence :unsure .
In closing, Even if I were able to make a perfect SDS or screen used recast, I'd still be more proud of my "monstrously hideous" "Soft-serve" helmet because it was made with honest hands and intentions.
Thank you for your time and God bless.
 
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In closing, Even if I were able to make a perfect SDS or screen used recast, I'd still be more proud of my "monstrously hideous" "Soft-serve" helmet because it was made with honest hands and intentions.
Thank you for your time and God bless.
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Thanks for posting and giving us the history. Wow, I'm really sorry about the trashing, I assumed it was a recast RT or MFX and trashing was in line but knowing it's a personal sculpt is fantastic. I could never do as good a job at making one so you have my admiration. I'm really happy to know the origins, I expect the owner will too. Good to know we can call it a Lunchbox or would you prefer another name?
 
Well, I'll apologize for my soft-serve comment. Its a great piece of work for an original. This is not the first time I've heard about TK face or even whole bucket molds (copied from an early TE) coming from a place in CA. If its the same as the one I think it is you made it look much better than it did. I think that people mistaking your original for a recast says something to the good job you did. Sorry for being an ass :(
You should share some pictures of your work (not that you have to ;) ), it's quite an accomplishment to make a bucket from scratch.
 
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