Blu-Ray TOS Phaser for Under $100 - Adult Supervision Activity

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A Blu Ray Laser.....$40 dollars
A Toy TOS Phaser and some parts......$50 dollars
An aging 47 year old pretending he's on an away mission with Capt. Kirk.......Priceless


Tom
 
Re: Blu-Ray TOS Phaser for Under $100 Bucks

Hi Tom
Where did you find the laser for 40.00 ? :confused


A Blu Ray Laser.....$40 dollars
A Toy TOS Phaser and some parts......$50 dollars
An aging 47 year old pretending he's on an away mission with Capt. Kirk.......Priceless


Tom
 
Re: Blu-Ray TOS Phaser for Under $100 Bucks

so that's what Sony plans to do with the rest of their lasers after the holidays :p
 
Re: Blu-Ray TOS Phaser for Under $100 Bucks

Hi Tom
Where did you find the laser for 40.00 ? :confused

Hey Phez!

That's not my vid, but I'd think they'd be available somewhere as parts or such. I'm looking into it.

Tom
 
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Be really careful about this, in two ways.

That laser's too bright to be casually pointing around. If you hit something shiny and reflect it into somebody's eyes, they're likely to have permanent retinal damage.

Still, it's not nearly bright enough to "look like a phaser" under normal conditions. The video was shot with a fog machine to make the beam visible. Under normal conditions, you can't see the beam at all, just a blue dot where you're pointing it, like a laser pointer.

So keep in mind that the laser is NOT powerful enough to see like in the video, but IS powerful enough to permanently screw up your vision, or somebody else's. Not a good combination, IMHO. A blu-ray laser is not a toy. (A laser pointer isn't, either, but this is several times as powerful.)

Also, the instructions for the mod are not good. You are likely to fry your nice laser if you actually use it much, because a resistor is not a good voltage regulator, and the blu-ray laser is a delicate, easy-to-ruin little gadget. (Several people have ruined their nice lasers trying to follow his instructions.)

IMHO, the guy who made the video is the moral equivalent of a cheesy recaster. He tends to lift things from other people, including very detailed plans, without giving them proper credit, then make a slick video and take the producer rewards on Metacafe. His own stuff is pretty cheesy, and he's not very knowledgeable or concerned about safety of things like lasers.
 
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Re: Blu-Ray TOS Phaser for Under $100 Bucks

Be really careful about this, in two ways.

That laser's too bright to be casually pointing around. If you hit something shiny and reflect it into somebody's eyes, they're likely to have permanent retinal damage.

Still, it's not nearly bright enough to "look like a phaser" under normal conditions. The video was shot with a fog machine to make the beam visible. Under normal conditions, you can't see the beam at all, just a blue dot where you're pointing it, like a laser pointer.

So keep in mind that the laser is NOT powerful enough to see like in the video, but IS powerful enough to permanently screw up your vision, or somebody else's. Not a good combination, IMHO. A blu-ray laser is not a toy. (A laser pointer isn't, either, but this is several times as powerful.)

FAIL!!!!!!! Your quite the buzzkill there pal. Let people have there fun
 
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Oww! I think I burned my retina just watching that video!

Pretty cool stuff - although a bit misleading with the "fog".
 
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FAIL!!!!!!! Your quite the buzzkill there pal.

Whatever, Mac.

Let people have there fun

No. That would not be logical.

If people want a phaser that puts out a blue dot, that's cool with me. If they want it to work, they should be careful handling the laser when they build it. If they want it to last, they should look into adding a constant-current (?) regulator... I think there are free plans out there somewhere, and---HEY! YOU KIDS! STOP RUNNING WITH THOSE LASERS! YOU'LL PUT SOMEBODY'S EYE OUT!

Excuse me, gotta go find that fun chip that fell out of my head.
 
Re: Blu-Ray TOS Phaser for Under $100 Bucks

Be really careful about this, in two ways.

That laser's too bright to be casually pointing around. If you hit something shiny and reflect it into somebody's eyes, they're likely to have permanent retinal damage.

Still, it's not nearly bright enough to "look like a phaser" under normal conditions. The video was shot with a fog machine to make the beam visible. Under normal conditions, you can't see the beam at all, just a blue dot where you're pointing it, like a laser pointer.

So keep in mind that the laser is NOT powerful enough to see like in the video, but IS powerful enough to permanently screw up your vision, or somebody else's. Not a good combination, IMHO. A blu-ray laser is not a toy. (A laser pointer isn't, either, but this is several times as powerful.)

Also, the instructions for the mod are not good. You are likely to fry your nice laser if you actually use it much, because a resistor is not a good voltage regulator, and the blu-ray laser is a delicate, easy-to-ruin little gadget. (Several people have ruined their nice lasers trying to follow his instructions.)

IMHO, the guy who made the video is the moral equivalent of a cheesy recaster. He tends to lift things from other people, including very detailed plans, without giving them proper credit, then make a slick video and take the producer rewards on Metacafe. His own stuff is pretty cheesy, and he's not very knowledgeable or concerned about safety of things like lasers.


I'd have to agree that putting lasers in the phasers is courting retinal damage for someone. My mind is changed on this.

Tom
 
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Unsafe...oh my goodness.
Yes, and for heavens sake make sure your replica knives are not sharp as well...
...and watch out for bb guns too..you'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie.

Be afraid, be very afraid:angel
 
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Unsafe...oh my goodness.
Yes, and for heavens sake make sure your replica knives are not sharp as well...
...and watch out for bb guns too..you'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie.

Be afraid, be very afraid:angel

I guess I sound like Mr. Safety Weenie to you, but you know, fearlessness is just dumb.

If you read various easy laser hack how-tos, and the comments on them, it's obvious that most people really don't understand the dangers of lasers the way they understand the dangers of knives and guns. Even if they're told they're dangerous, they don't really believe it because they don't understand it. (So here goes.)

For example, most people don't know that laser pointers are generally limited to 5mw, or why, or realize that a 30 or 60 mw laser is much more dangerous. It's not obvious from looking at the light spot it produces, either. A 6x or even a 12x higher powered laser doesn't look all that much brighter, because visual response to light is logarithmic.

If it appears significantly brighter, so that most people would think it's "2x as bright," it's actually putting out several times that much energy and is way more likely to burn somebody's retina with a stray reflection---even a partial reflection off a window or piece of metal trim or some other smooth surface. That's why laser pointers are limited to 5mw---so that a *partial* reflection off of glass or whatever is unlikely to blind anybody.

It's a lot harder to know where the partial reflections are going than is to aim the main beam, so the obvious advice---DO NOT LOOK INTO BEAM WITH REMAINING EYE---isn't always good enough.

For more powerful lasers than a laser pointer, you really have to know where the reflections are going, even if you're not aiming it at a mirror. If the laser is powerful enough, you could accidentally blind somebody by playing the beam across any shiny surface.

The non-obviousness of the dangers makes them worth pointing out. I don't think most people are stupid enough to do really stupid things with lasers, but plenty of people are *ignorant* enough to pass for stupid when it comes to playing with lasers.

If I see somebody waving a sword around carelessly, I know to stay out of reach. But if they're using something that acts like a laser pointer, I can't see the beam, it reaches really far, it can reach me around corners, and I can't easily tell if it's just a laser pointer, or something way more likely to injure somebody. I likely won't even notice what they're doing. It's like a magic sword that looks short and dull and predictable but is actually very long and sharp and screwy. Not something I want people goofing around with at cons, etc. (Or even trying to "try it out" responsibly, without actually knowing how.)

If you really want your very own blu-ray phaser laser pointer, knowing that it won't do what the movie shows it doing except in dim light and fog, by all means go for it. It is kinda neat.

Just keep it out of reach of children and ignorant people, i.e., almost everybody. It looks like a toy---a phaser couldn't be *real*, after all---but it's actually a fairly dangerous weapon, and that's a bad combination.
 
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Just keep it out of reach of children and ignorant people, i.e., almost everybody. ...

I agree on the children part (only a few million things children should not play with) but as for dumb people....
may be true (although I don't agree that "almost everyone" as individuals are ignorant, they only get stupid when they are in groups - herd animals are ignorant, reactive and respond with panic) BUT a bunch of blind dumb people might be fun to watch.:love

All safety and blinding death ray issues aside, it does suck not seeing the beam without fog. I would be willing to blind others for the sake of a real beam I could see in any light, but the fun level drops below "blinding trade-off level" when you have to fog the air first.:cry
 
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Lasers are a special consideration because of the distance they go or reflect. Think about the person who temporarily blinded some pilots by shining a powerful laser into the sky and into the cockpit while they were landing. Anything that gets the homeland security to look for you might not be a good thing.

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/4034128/detail.html

P.S. I'm not fond of the laws that require prop guns, etc. to be disabled from firing spark balls because of the paranoia over guns, or confiscation of large Klingon swords in the UK, or other related laws. And i don't want a laser shining law either. Just common sense to be practised. In addition i retitled this mod "- Adult Supervision Required".

Tom
 
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