Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
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seelsa73
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Lucky. There isn't a Carl's Jr. anywhere within 100 miles of where I live, but I see them all the time. Same with Sonic, Red Robin, and Golden Corral. It's annoying.
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Andrewx33
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I admit that I'm not a fan of the title, but who gives a stuff, it's a freaking title?
So far the suit and batmobile have been great and hopefully over the next year and a half we'll see more development.
This is a case of innocent until proven guilty. If the movie sucks on release then we can riot in the streets, but we might as well stay hopeful for now, until the dawn of justice :3
So far the suit and batmobile have been great and hopefully over the next year and a half we'll see more development.
This is a case of innocent until proven guilty. If the movie sucks on release then we can riot in the streets, but we might as well stay hopeful for now, until the dawn of justice :3
So it's bad to say that the title sucks, but it's ok to say the suit looks great? We're not judging a final product here. We're building up to it. And with all things in general, what's wrong with being critical about the title? For a Man of Steel sequel, having Batman get top billing over Superman kind of shows that they're not only getting cold feet. Heck, the very title "Dawn of Justice" flat out tells you that this film probably won't be it's own self-contained story but a build up to another one. Also, the suit does nothing for me. It's a guy wearing a Batman costume looking glum. Yahoo...
It's kind of hard to stay hopeful about a comic book movie when the person in charge of shaping all of DC's movies has been making the rounds spewing one incredibly offensive comment after another. If he's not talking about how She-Hulk is just a male fantasy "porn star" who only serves to give men the idea of having sex with her as the Hulk, he talks about how goofy super heroes like Martian Manhunter are.
So he comes down to Earth and decides, unlike Superman who already exists in the world now, that he’s just going to be a homicide detective… So instead of using super-powers and mind-reading and like, oh, I could figure out if the President’s lying or whatever, he just decides to disguise himself as a human homicide detective. Dare to dream!”
Incase you can't figure out what's wrong with this statement, here it is if he was talking about Superman.
"So Clark decides that he's going to work for the Daily Planet as a reporter. Instead of using his super powers to protect people, fight bad guys and like, oh, send off every nuclear missile out into space, he just decides to disguise himself as a human news reporter. Dare to dream!"
Notice anything missing? Yeah. The actual SUPERMAN portion of his character. When John Jones isn't working as an officer of the law, he's Martian Manhunter! How can someone who is in charge of the DC movies not understand or show any open respect towards anything regarding super heroes?
RougeAvenger81
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That was the one thing that bothered me watching Man of Steel. Seeing Ihop and Sears and 7/11 signs as huge backdrop pieces that were obvious advertisement drew my attention for a minute, from what was really going on. They said they did it because they wanted to use real life businesses, but it's Smallville. You have mom and pop stores and gas stations. I highly doubt you will have a Sears, Ihop and large 7/11 within a block of each other. I grew up small town Midwest (one state next to Kansas actually) and we didn't even have a stop light in the whole county, let alone all of that. In the Midwest, those kind of stores are in "larger" towns. Not Smallville size towns. I would have been happier had their winks to "Smallville" the show like the Sullivan tractor repair, etc. would have been where the fighting happened. Not in the middle of an Ihop. Minor rant. Big movies trying to make money elsewhere I guess.
Father
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Right? We get some things for FREE because the advertisements pay for it. Like television, radio and Facebook. But yet we have to pay $10/ticket to see a slew of pre-movie commercials, followed by the commercials for upcoming movies (but who doesn't love trailers?), then maybe some more commercials, then the movie that is littered with commercial product placement, some as subtle as a sledge hammer to the face.
And spare us the lame explanations for putting all of those "name brands" in MoS Smallville. How stupid do they think us little people are? Funny how Smallville had all of those franchise businesses but most of the billboards and signs in Metropolis were fictional.
I guess it's not unlike pro sports though... as long as people are willing to pay to see it they'll continue to get away with gouging people at the ticket booth and the concession stands.
I'd much rather throw my month at a movie than sports though.
rodneyfaile
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Seriously, as long as a character doesn't specifically advertise products in his dialogue with no reason except for pure product placement, I don't see what's the matter. What change does it make if a character use Nokia or whatever else ? I don't expect them to use generic no-brand objects just as most people don't use them either. Doesn't change a thing to the story.
With product placement,
Everyone has their own view on that. I know some people are really bothered by it. takes them out of the moment.
Personally I don't mind it. I'm a big fan of 50's comedy. Once you've seen Burns and Allen include a commercial for Carnation milk as part of the actual script of the show, a backdrop is extremely subtle by comparison.
Actually now that I think about it, I think I prefer the 50's way. There's almost a bizarre kind of honesty in it.
Everyone has their own view on that. I know some people are really bothered by it. takes them out of the moment.
Personally I don't mind it. I'm a big fan of 50's comedy. Once you've seen Burns and Allen include a commercial for Carnation milk as part of the actual script of the show, a backdrop is extremely subtle by comparison.
Actually now that I think about it, I think I prefer the 50's way. There's almost a bizarre kind of honesty in it.
RougeAvenger81
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The issue is (at least for me) it's very distracting when it's so over the top and very out of place for where they are. Man of Steel promos were nearly built in commercials, as seen above with the Faora shot, etc. It's smallville and Metropolis. I expect/hope for the fake ads or stores or at the very least mom and pop stores like Sullivan Tractor repair. Subtle wink to another series. Plus it allows for easter eggs to link to later films. Like Lex Corps on the trailer (although a bit obvious) and the Wayne Ent. on the satellite.
Andrewx33
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It's kind of hard to stay hopeful about a comic book movie when the person in charge of shaping all of DC's movies has been making the rounds spewing one incredibly offensive comment after another. If he's not talking about how She-Hulk is just a male fantasy "porn star" who only serves to give men the idea of having sex with her as the Hulk, he talks about how goofy super heroes like Martian Manhunter are.
If your going to prejudge a film upon previous actions made by people with practically no influence on the film then you may as well be one of the many DC fans whom refuses to indulge in anything from Marvel just because it isn't from DC and visa-versa.
If your going to prejudge a film upon previous actions made by people with practically no influence on the film then you may as well be one of the many DC fans whom refuses to indulge in anything from Marvel just because it isn't from DC and visa-versa.
RougeAvenger81
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I wouldn't say he has no influence. He did most of the writing and story for MOS and the prior Batman Trilogy.
As well as writing the story for "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" and serving as executive producer. Not exactly the type of person who has "no influence" on a film when he's credited as the freaking writer, but hey. His story just so happens to be getting a re-write by Chris Terrio. Fine tuning, or salvage operation? Judging by his recent "Don't know jack about comics" rant and the extremely mixed reaction towards his handling of Superman, I'm leaning more towards the latter.
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Ladder's lean, latter does not.
Thank you. *fixed* It's a relief that my mistakes still convey what I actually want to say, or else I'd really be in a world of hurt.
RougeAvenger81
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I'm going to have to agree with you on the rewrite being more of a salvage, after his recent comments. Although I will stick to my guns and will always enjoy Man of Steel, there were issues with the story telling. Goyer's favorite, flashback, flashforward style of story telling didn't really work as well in this film as past films he has written. Maybe they stepped in and said, "ok, we like your idea, but we are going to put it all together this time."
