Unfortunate since Wonder Woman is now stuck in a universe where she literally can't exist unless she's in a franchise that literally won't put her in the title in the first film to feature her. She's never had her own movie set in a universe where she is the only super hero. That's just sad.
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
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Unfortunate since Wonder Woman is now stuck in a universe where she literally can't exist unless she's in a franchise that literally won't put her in the title in the first film to feature her. She's never had her own movie set in a universe where she is the only super hero. That's just sad.
And to think DC once had a Joss Whedon WW screenplay in their hands ... and chucked it aside.
cboath
Master Member
I was reading the other day that they've already slotted BvS sequel for 11/17....with Captain America 3 on 11/3...
Lutso
Sr Member
I agree with this. It would be easy for DC to just clone Marvel's movies, and we would live in a pretty boring world.
It's not worth it if that path means sacrificing what we liked about the characters to begin with. And if you look at the Marvel films that were released just this year, is it really fair to say that they have a formula that you can replicate?
Captain America: Winter Soldier
Amazing Spider-Man 2
X-Men: Days of Future Past
Guardians of the Galaxy
These movies don't really have a lot in common. Captain America was a gritty espionage action thriller, Amazing Spider-Man 2 was dumb randomness, X-Men: Days of Future Past was a time travel movie, and Guardians of the Galaxy was a scifi action flick. This feels less like DC trying to do it's own thing and more like them sticking with only one style. Dark and mopey.
Lutso
Sr Member
You raise a good point. But for the purposes of the argument I think we were moreso comparing the Avengers films to what we expect from the Justice League films. That was my thinking, at least - maybe RogueAvenger had something else in mind.
But as far as their standalone movies, you're absolutely right; Marvel has a huge variety in tone and style for their products, and I suspect that's a huge reason behind their all-around success. Pretty much any moviegoer can find a Marvel film that agrees with their personal taste, and that concept makes a ton of sense not only from a financial viewpoint, but an entertainment one as well.
But as far as their standalone movies, you're absolutely right; Marvel has a huge variety in tone and style for their products, and I suspect that's a huge reason behind their all-around success. Pretty much any moviegoer can find a Marvel film that agrees with their personal taste, and that concept makes a ton of sense not only from a financial viewpoint, but an entertainment one as well.
Father
Sr Member
It's weird though. Marvel is kind of fragmented. The characters are from Marvel comics, but they're not all handled by Marvel on film. If they were all Marvel property I'm certain these character they don't own would be used much differently.
So it's not fair to lump ASM2 and X-Men in with the Marvel movies.
DC/Warner seems to have control of all their flagship characters so they have a lot more control over the universe they're building.
Alpha Proto
Sr Member
No May 6, 2016 is Captain America 3.
BVS had a 2015 release date, and moved to May 6, 2016 the same day as Captain America 3.
Now it moved up 3 months ahead of Captain America so they wouldn't drain from each others opening box office.
WB gave 9 release dates for future DC movies but no titles to go with them.
So that was not a sequel you heard about, but the first movie.
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Well, with how slow filming seems to be going (granted, it could just be because it's huge stunts going on, etc), I'd be surprised if it gets ready for release sooner. However, there's no way to tell what they are filming simultaneously to the stuff I saw. The set is HUGE. I mean under NDA I can neither confirm nor deny that this is the same movie that we are all talking about Idon'tknowwhatyoumean.
And since I said I would report back what I could after my four days of working on some unnamed film, here goes:
I didn't get to see a whole lot going on action-wise. But I was also more interested in the stunt cars and camera rigs. I was one of the standby precision drivers they had on set, but never got used. They had a LOT of people there and kept changing things at last minute to accommodate for it. Like with most movies, it was several days of hurry-up-and-wait. Calls of 'We need green team drivers all on set NOW RIGHT NOW on foot' with us racing a block over to set for a safety meeting, just to stand there and wait for a good long while before it got started, then got sent back. That's seriously what it's like on set, for anyone who has never been on one. It seems chaotic and unorganized and like all you do is stand around and wait for other people, but it's controlled chaos and on something that big, I imagine it's like you're trying to run seven puppets at once and not get the strings tied up and to someone not involved, all you see are strings getting moved around with no sense of purpose. If that makes sense.
Anyway, there's not much I can say about it but I will say I got to put a cool license plate on my car for a few days, even though it never got used. I did get used as an extra in a scene where we are all running down the street. I got to sit in one of the stunt vehicles for a minute. I got to talk camera shop with some of the camera guys. I got to see a motorcycle decked out with camera equipment and it was badass. I met some cool friends during my several days of hanging out in a parking lot waiting for us to get used on set. I also was waiting for the restroom and some guy passed by, mentioned to me that the tops of my ears were burning (I have pasty white skin and red hair. It's pretty evident when I start to burn. I go from white to NEON RED with nothing in between). I said thanks, I'll have to put on more sunscreen, that I keep sweating it off. He said he feels bad for the people who are wearing the heavy coats (it's August in Detroit and the film is set in the fall/winter). I said yeah, but they seemed to be doing a great job taking care of people and giving them water and stuff. After a minute of chatting he kept going on his merry way and I finally got my turn to pee. I found out this morning from an article someone posted of a picture of him on set that the guy I was talking to was the director. Kinda cool. He was just some nice guy passing by on set.
Call times some days were starting at 6 AM and we'd go until dark pretty much. They wrapped us last night just before it started to get dark after the scene I was used as an extra in. We went back to our cars and the roads were all completely blocked off. The barricade went like two blocks further than it had previously before we went to set to be used as extras and it thereby was blocking us in so we couldn't get back to base camp. They said they were going to do one more shot before calling it for the day and we couldn't figure out why the roads were blocked for so far... until they brought in the helicopter. It flew over the set to get some shots, sometimes hovered a bit, that sort of thing. But the roads were blocked to clear them because... the helicopter went SUPER low between the buildings. It skimmed maybe ten feet over the tops of the streetlight poles and the People Mover and zipped past. It was the coolest thing ever. People were lining the streets as far as we could see to watch it. It felt like you could reach up and touch the bottom of it.
So there's that. Most of my time was spent sitting on a parking lot with the other drivers playing Cards Against Humanity and having epic dance parties in order to wake us up (imagine standing around from 6 AM until 9 PM in the sun for days on end). It's a good thing I don't do this for hopes of seeing stars or being used on set or seeing anything super cool from the movie happen because I'd forever be disappointed. I'm just happy to have been a part of something cool and now I get to put on my resume that was booked as precision driver by THE BIGGEST name in stunt driving. (Also, precision driving within this context is just being allowed to physically drive/move a vehicle on set while stunts are happening. It's not anything like actual stunt driving. Pretty much it's that you can hold a steady speed, you can stop where you need to and as fast as they tell you to, you can navigate forward and backward on command in the way they tell you to and you have no problem doing things like holding a steady speed without cruise control and without looking down at your speed because your eyes are firmly locked on the car that is coming at you head on at a high rate of speed, then you don't flinch when they come an inch away from smashing into you. Not to be confused with members of his Precision Driving Team, who are actual stunt drivers. We are simply the people they interact with while they are driving.)
I leave you with some of the overheard conversations on the 'off-topic' equivalent channel on the walkies:
Star: So do you have to work out to drink muscle milk?
(Silence)
Person1: MUUUUSCLE MIIIIIILK
(us all looking at each other like wtf did we just tune into? Also apparently the next morning his trailer was stocked with a crap ton of Muscle Milk.)
Person2: If anyone asks, there are just stunt people on set, nobody important.
(Long pause)
Person3: Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhm, stunt people ARE important.
Person2: You know what I mean.
Person4: Copy that.
Person5: Copy that.
Person4: Did you just 'copy that' that you copied that? Are you copying off me?
Person5: Copy that.
Person6: Is there anyone driving who is NOT on their walkies right now?
(Pause)
Person6: Scratch that. Are there any drivers that anyone can see who are not on their walkies right now?
Also a random lengthy groan sound for no apparent reason.
So, there's that if anyone cares.
The only real hindering aspect regarding these movies being done by different studios is that the movies will not be interacting with each other. If you were to take the Marvel movies as movies on their own, they're pretty good stand alone material. And even if Marvel Studios were making the Amazing Spider-Man sequel and Days of Future Past, would you really expect anything to be that different other than a mention of another film's existence?
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The Freep (Detroit Free Press) posted this picture on Twitter, which is the only shot I've seen of the helicopter. I believe this was taken across the street and down two blocks from where I was. You know, on some movie or other. I dunno what movie it could be...
Here, found one that better shows how low the helicopter went, though it dove a little lower near the ambulances. This is all on set. I was on the corner to the right and back a ways. The person who took this must have used a zoom lens because it was about two more blocks out that the barricades started:
Quite a few interesting pictures are here: http://www.freep.com/article/20140809/NEWS01/308090114
At one point there is a guy with a megaphone in a shot near a car. I will neither confirm nor deny I was standing to the right of him on the curb out of frame of the photo.
Here, found one that better shows how low the helicopter went, though it dove a little lower near the ambulances. This is all on set. I was on the corner to the right and back a ways. The person who took this must have used a zoom lens because it was about two more blocks out that the barricades started:
Quite a few interesting pictures are here: http://www.freep.com/article/20140809/NEWS01/308090114
At one point there is a guy with a megaphone in a shot near a car. I will neither confirm nor deny I was standing to the right of him on the curb out of frame of the photo.
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Father
Sr Member
Wow... You really think don't Marvel studios would be doing things differently? With what seems to be a serious amount of forethought and planning so far I think they'd be using those "properties" a lot differently.
Paul Andrew
Master Member
Yes, I expect they'd be better (and I really like DoFP).
irononreverse
Active Member
The answer is simple:
Batman forever,
Batman and robin.
Nolan wasn't well known back then, with Memento probably being his best known film.
Zombie_61
Master Member
This describes it fairly well in my opinion. In 1990 I worked as an extra for two days on Oliver Stone's The Doors, and the "novelty" of being on a movie set wears off pretty quickly. They were filming scenes for the "Miami concert" sequence in the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles, so weather wasn't an issue for us, but being an extra on a contained set and having no responsibilities between takes (except, of course, to stay where they want you to be) gives you the opportunity to see the amount of work that goes into setting up every shot. It was interesting..for a while...but unless you're on the primary crew you have to be willing to put up with standing or sitting around doing nothing for long periods of time.
basically it's just like serving jury duty.
It was scary and awesome. You could really tell that he was probably very experienced in it because of how he was moving. It was SO cool when it dove really fast and at a steep angle and WOOSHED right over our heads.
