Also, it's interesting how Maz explains how evil has taken on many forms in the galaxy and mentions how she saw the Sith, the Empire, and now the First Order. That's makes me feel like they are all unique and makes me even more inclined to believe Snoke and Ren are not Sith but something entirely new. And it's interesting how the First Order takes children and raises them to do one thing, almost an exact mirror of what the Jedi Order did.
If they have the money to build a starkiller base, they probably aren't repurposing old tie fighters
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Re. TIE ships in TFA:
I think the real motivation why we see kind of a revival of the standard TIE ship (aka "fighter") in the new movie is not because of their proven design, lesser production costs or any other pseudo in-universe reason, but because some dimwit at LFL thought it is a brilliant idea to plant it on its wings when not in flight.
I do not know when or where it was introduced, but I was shocked when I saw the commercials for SW Rebels and all those Imperial fighters standing on their fragile cooling plates (sigh)! Those wings are no undercarriage for heaven's sake!
The TIE ships are not supposed to land "conventionally" (like the Rebel ships are capable of), but are dependent on Imperial infrastructure (like star destroyers or bases with their respective suspension systems) - that is why we see them either flying or hanging under the hangar bay roofs in the Original Trilogy.
And therefore the wings of the TIE Interceptor can be slanted, because they are damn radiators, and not the chassis!
By the way, the proportions (and details) of the "new" TIEs seen in TFA are not the same as of the original TIE fighters... the new wings for example are not as high in relation to the span of the ship compared to the vintage TIE ships, not even talking about all the other stuff visible (thrusters etc.). They have more in common with the toys than with what we saw in the first three movies.
As Dan mentioned - they are easily recognizable as bad-guy fighters to the general viewer... job done. Simple as that!
Bingo.Re. TIE ships in TFA:
I think the real motivation why we see kind of a revival of the standard TIE ship (aka "fighter") in the new movie is not because of their proven design, lesser production costs or any other pseudo in-universe reason, but because some dimwit at LFL thought it is a brilliant idea to plant it on its wings when not in flight.
I do not know when or where it was introduced, but I was shocked when I saw the commercials for SW Rebels and all those Imperial fighters standing on their fragile cooling plates (sigh)! Those wings are no undercarriage for heaven's sake!
The TIE ships are not supposed to land "conventionally" (like the Rebel ships are capable of), but are dependent on Imperial infrastructure (like star destroyers or bases with their respective suspension systems) - that is why we see them either flying or hanging under the hangar bay roofs in the Original Trilogy.
And therefore the wings of the TIE Interceptor can be slanted, because they are damn radiators, and not the chassis!
By the way, the proportions (and details) of the "new" TIEs seen in TFA are not the same as of the original TIE fighters... the new wings for example are not as high in relation to the span of the ship compared to the vintage TIE ships, not even talking about all the other stuff visible (thrusters etc.). They have more in common with the toys than with what we saw in the first three movies.
As Dan mentioned - they are easily recognizable as bad-guy fighters to the general viewer... job done. Simple as that!
Yeah I definitely think they are newly built fighters. There are numerous smaller differences and I think the ion engines on the spec ops version are noticeably different. It's already said the TIE/fo has shields and the spec ops version has shields and hyperdrive, so they are improved over what we had before. Poe was able was able to pack quite a punch against the Finalizer's turbolasers so I wouldn't be surprised if they have heavier firepower too. I'm beginning to believe that the old thinking that the interceptor was a replacement of the standard fighter is erroneous. I think it's simply suited for a different mission profile.
And regarding the Sith, I never thought the Sith represented the darkside exclusively. All Sith are darksiders but not all darksiders are Sith. I always assumed the Sith were just one particular school of thought and for all we know, there could've been many other lesser known disciplines that embraced the darker side of the Force.
And then we had Barriss offey. A fallen jedi who believed that the jedi were being used as tools for the dark side.some are already shown in the clone wars cartoon like the nightsisters .I believe that is what they are called.
I'm not sure what the problem is with TIEs landing as they do. As far as I know, there's nothing to indicate any reason why they couldn't. I think the only logistical hurdle is how the pilot embarks/disembarks, with the cockpit so high off the ground. I don't really recall how Rebels handles it.
And then we had Barriss offey. A fallen jedi who believed that the jedi were being used as tools for the dark side.
Considering that she was right, we're does she fall in the force spectrum?
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or the opposite LOLThe problem is that people make up their own canon and decide what is and is not capable in Star Wars without ever seeing any evidence of it.
I'm not sure what the problem is with TIEs landing as they do. As far as I know, there's nothing to indicate any reason why they couldn't. I think the only logistical hurdle is how the pilot embarks/disembarks, with the cockpit so high off the ground. I don't really recall how Rebels handles it.
I think that they cheat it in Rebels and simply never show anybody getting in or out of them. What I imagine they do is that they have a bunch of those rolling stairways type things that airports used to use all the time and you see the President use for Air Force One. Either that or TIE pilots are all trained in doing Force jumps and simply leap into the cockpits Jedi/anime style.
I'm hoping they'll make Snoke seem to be more evil than Palpatine, then at the end of Episode IX we find out he's actually a benevolent overlord who wants peace and prosperity throughout the universe.I'm not even sure if Snoke has any Force power, that would be really interesting!