firesprite
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Agreed! It's a great, quick read. It's 387 page book that feels more like 150 pages. It's a hell of a lot of fun and Movie-Watney got of SO light comparatively.
The Martian (Post-release)
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Agreed! It's a great, quick read. It's 387 page book that feels more like 150 pages. It's a hell of a lot of fun and Movie-Watney got of SO light comparatively.
firesprite
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I had no idea they were putting out an extended cut. *headdesk*
Though, I just did a google-search and came across this article. It sounds like there's at least one scene I expected from the book which is in this longer cut.
http://www.cinemablend.com/news/152...ludes-9-new-scenes-heres-what-happens-in-them
Also, I'm so tired of studios double (or triple) dipping like this. I'm to the point where I'm just not going to buy a movie on bluray until it's been out for a year or so just to make sure we don't have this happen.
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astroboy
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I did not enjoy this flick. Why is it that all these Nasa movies have to use the same tropes? I'm so tired of the exact same caricatures. These people could have also been in Independence day.
No one had a character arc.
And there has to be SOME other way to establish a scene without typing it across the bottom of the screen!
No one had a character arc.
And there has to be SOME other way to establish a scene without typing it across the bottom of the screen!
Thanks for that Firesprite I will NOT be buying the extended based on those few additions, and the fact that Amazon is offering it for an amazingly over priced £28!!!! (at the moment)
Like when they have to act out their plan with office supplies for an audience with a short attention span?
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Fawbish
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Exactly what I meant.
Even when he says "I'm a botanist" to the camera...all the reveals of the "how" could have been done a little more skillfully.
I realize much of the story takes place with events on Earth but, with the frequent cutting back and forth between Mars and Earth, you completely lose any sense of isolation or hopelessness. In contrast the film, Moon, takes place entirely from Sam Rockwell's point of view and that film certainly has the feeling of isolation. It should have been much more profound to have been stranded on Mars but it certainly doesn't feel that way.
And, with the story being told from both Earth and Mars, you don't doubt for a second that Matt Damon will get saved eventually. The Castaway, with Tom Hanks, had a greater sense of desperation and peril. The Martian has none of that. It had the thrills of "how is he going to get out of this one?" but you never thought he wouldn't make it.
The Martian is a superb premise brimming with dramatic potential but realized as a good, yet forgettable, by-the-numbers Hollywood suspense movie.
And, with the story being told from both Earth and Mars, you don't doubt for a second that Matt Damon will get saved eventually. The Castaway, with Tom Hanks, had a greater sense of desperation and peril. The Martian has none of that. It had the thrills of "how is he going to get out of this one?" but you never thought he wouldn't make it.
The Martian is a superb premise brimming with dramatic potential but realized as a good, yet forgettable, by-the-numbers Hollywood suspense movie.
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^^^^THIS
astroboy
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I believe that this is because movies are made so quickly these days that it feels like what we see in the theatre is a collage of scenes they filmed. They don't spend any time in development.
It's like they way they've always made ensemble comedies like anchorman or animal house
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Riceball
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Which literally is pretty much every movie ever made, I've yet to see a full length movie made that was done with one camera, continuously with no cuts and/or edits; just one long take. But I get what you mean though; it's like they wrote a bunch of random scenes and then tried to somehow tie them together into a cohesive story.
I feel like it had a heavy hand from the studio that mandated Scott include a checklist of tropes:
- catchy music
- brilliant idea coming from a young, hip, casually unprofessional person who can be a surrogate for the hipster audience - "we need at least one key character for the millennial audience to relate to."
- brilliant scheme explained to the audience with office supplies
- etc...
firesprite
Master Member
You guys do remember that this is an adaptation of a book, right?
Yeah. The 70s music was a part of the book.
firesprite
Master Member
All of the things people are quibbling about were part of the book.
Yes. And, if all those elements I griped about were faithful translations from the book, then I'd say the book itself is one of those written with the forethought to be adaptable as a screenplay since it's loaded with movie tropes.
firesprite
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Quite likely, in my opinion. You see changes in color and texture all the time in chemotherapy patients who have started to have their hair grow back. With the sort of privation he endured toward the end of his stay on Mars, it's very reasonable to assume that Watney experienced hair loss. When it grew back, the various radiations he was exposed to (from the RTG, various cosmic radiations that could have begun seeping through the materials of an environmental suit not intended to be used as often or as long as Watney did his) caused mutation that made it go grey.
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