Questions About Bond Films that You Have been Afraid to Ask SPOILERS

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I have a history of over thinking movies...

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...And the Bond films are no exception.

These questions have no bearing on my utter enjoyment of the films.





GOLDENEYE

Did Bond know Onnatop was going to be driving on that mountain road? They have their flirty driving game of cat and mouse, and the movie cuts to Bond walking in a Casino, smiling that her car is outside...He engages her, follows her, and photographs her (akin to a Police Officer running her plates) and finds the scoop. M, the HEAD OF MI6 deems her important enough for Bond to follow IN LESS THAN FIVE SECONDS.

Did he know she would be there?

Did he know who she was when they were on the road earlier?

Did MI6/Bond know she was from the Janus syndicate?

If not, isn't this not one of the greatest coincidences of all time? That Bond happens upon the film's main henchmen on the road, and then bumps into her again on a night out on the town?
 
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He does state that her license plates (which turn out to be a friend's) seem counterfeit, but this could hardly cause him to follow her?
 
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SKYFALL

Bond follows the lead generated from the intel on his fragments - that Patrice stole the list, and finds him. He seeks his employer. How did Mi6 and Bond know Patrice worked steadily for Silva? Why couldn't he have been a gun for hire? How could he know (maybe he didn't) that the assassination was connected to ONE employer (which turned out to be Silva)?

Why was Severine present at the assasination? It even appears the other men in the room were in on it, even cleaning up the room. Why spend FOUR MILLION EUROS killing a man that is alone with your henchmen? Why not stab him in the neck while he is in the elevator? :lol

Bond finds the chip, and takes it to the Casino...but WHY IS SEVERINE AT THE CASINO? She seems interested to know who would claim Patrice's money...but how did she know Bond would be there THAT NIGHT? I assume Silva sent her to figure it out, and engage who it was?

Also, does Silva own the casino? It sure seems that way.

Where on Bond's body did Eve shoot him? I can't notice a bullet wound. He mentions 4 broken ribs and some damage to his non vital organs, but even the title sequence alludes to the spot in his left shoulder that Patrice's fragments hit.
 
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thegreatgalling said:
Did he know she would be there?
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No. Happy coincidence. He was intrigued when he found the same car. He knew she would be fun.

Did he know who she was when they were on the road earlier?
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Nope. Just a fun drive in the country.

Did MI6/Bond know she was from the Janus syndicate?
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Bond didn't, but he noticed that her license was fake on the car so he was suspicious (hence taking the photos). MI6 however DID know. Says right in the report that's sent back to him that she's suspected as being a member.

If not, isn't this not one of the greatest coincidences of all time? That Bond happens upon the film's main henchmen on the road, and then bumps into her again on a night out on the town?
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Not really as that meeting is what sets off the story in the first place. At that point he's not following or looking for a lead he's just doing what a good spy does and noting unusual things.

IF he was on the trail of Janus already and accidentally found her sure but I don't think to's too far fetched here.
 
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thegreatgalling said:
He does state that her license plates (which turn out to be a friend's) seem counterfeit, but this could hardly cause him to follow her?
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By itself maybe not. But she's hanging around with an Admiral. Possible security breach so he checks it out.
 
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thegreatgalling said:
SKYFALL

Bond follows the lead generated from the intel on his fragments - that Patrice stole the list, and finds him. He seeks his employer. How did Mi6 and Bond know Patrice worked steadily for Silva? Why couldn't he have been a gun for hire? How could he know (maybe he didn't) that the assassination was connected to ONE employer (which turned out to be Silva)?
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He is a gun for hire but it was the best lead they had. Bond wanted to collect the pay off to find where the source was. If it wasn't their guy they would have moved on to the next lead. The rest was vengeance gravy.

Why was Severine present at the assasination? It even appears the other men in the room were in on it, even cleaning up the room. Why spend FOUR MILLION EUROS killing a man that is alone with your henchmen? Why not stab him in the neck while he is in the elevator? :lol

Bond finds the chip, and takes it to the Casino...but WHY IS SEVERINE AT THE CASINO? She seems interested to know who would claim Patrice's money...but how did she know Bond would be there THAT NIGHT? I assume Silva sent her to figure it out, and engage who it was?

Also, does Silva own the casino? It sure seems that way.
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So that you have plausible deniability. Wasn't us officer! Someone in the next building did it! As for Severine I have a feeling she was used to draw people in. Yes, it then became Severine's task to find out who did it and engage them. Maybe even to bring them to him.

I doubt Silva outright owns the casino but I'll bet anything he runs it if you know what I mean.

Where on Bond's body did Eve shoot him? I can't notice a bullet wound. He mentions 4 broken ribs and some damage to his non vital organs, but even the title sequence alludes to the spot in his left shoulder that Patrice's fragments hit.
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Doesn't matter to the story AT ALL. Therefore it isn't made clear.
 
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thegreatgalling said:
No one?

And seems I am not the only person to ask about Bond's
bullet hole
in Skyfall.

plot explanation - in Skyfall opening scene on train, does Bond fake getting shot? - Movies and TV Beta - Stack Exchange
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:lol

He's definitely shot. Despite the fact that it doesn't matter it is implied that he's shot in basically the same spot that the fragments hit. Hence the large wound.
 
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Orange_Blend said:
Doesn't matter to the story AT ALL. Therefore it isn't made clear.
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I disagree about it not mattering *at all.* Bond is shot by a fellow agent, is presumed dead, goes on a drinking binge -- and all of this calls into question is ability in the field! It's a key element of one of the central plot points in the film.

Furthermore, the Daniel Craig era Bond films have done an excellent job of not only allowing Bond to get hurt, but having those injuries carry over to subsequent scenes.

Even if they wanted to bullet wound to ultimately not factor into his health once Bond returns to duty, omitting all evidence of it amounts to sloppy film making in a franchise that has so far attempted to retain a continuity (at least with itself).
 
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In the interest of not having a thread COMPLETELY in spoiler tags I'm just gonna say "SPOILERS".

Zuiun said:
I disagree about it not mattering *at all.* Bond is shot by a fellow agent, is presumed dead, goes on a drinking binge -- and all of this calls into question is ability in the field! It's a key element of one of the central plot points in the film.

Furthermore, the Daniel Craig era Bond films have done an excellent job of not only allowing Bond to get hurt, but having those injuries carry over to subsequent scenes.

Even if they wanted to bullet wound to ultimately not factor into his health once Bond returns to duty, omitting all evidence of it amounts to sloppy film making in a franchise that has so far attempted to retain a continuity (at least with itself).
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Yes, it's a key plot element, but it doesn't matter where she shot him. It only matters that he was shot.

That said I agree that the modern Bond films have been quite good at keeping Bond's injuries throughout the past few films. I got the distinct impression that she shot him in basically the same spot as the fragments hit. So far as his line about the broken ribs I don't believe he was saying that the bullet did all that, but rather the whole event caused by the bullet (ie: plummeting and then tumbling around in the water).
 
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I was actually kind of amused by a post that was almost all spoiler tags.

But I guess you're right. Perhaps the OP can modify the thread title to say *spoilers* or something. ;-)
 
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Zuiun said:
I was actually kind of amused by a post that was almost all spoiler tags.

But I guess you're right. Perhaps the OP can modify the thread title to say *spoilers* or something. ;-)
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I finished it and said to myself "what the hell are we doing?" :lol
 
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This has been the most fun and secretive thread ever.

:lol:lol:lol

Bless you OB, and co. I like everyone's points. I think I can buy that three or four fragments were embedded in his shoulder and BAM a bullet goes right in between.

I could have sworn when Bond discusses his getting shot with...Eve, he moves his hand around his stomach like he was shot there. But I will assume he broke his ribs in the fall.

I liked your GE points too OB, I concur.
 
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My dad and I have been wondering this since he took me to see Skyfall. How did Bond survive getting shot AND falling several hundred feet into raging water? It seems very far-fetched, and the movie didn't explain how he got out. I also didn't notice where he got shot. The only injury I saw was from the shrapnel.
 
He is seen being pulled out of the water after going over the dam. I assume that the bullet fragmented upon impact.
 
laserpistol76 said:
My dad and I have been wondering this since he took me to see Skyfall. How did Bond survive getting shot AND falling several hundred feet into raging water? It seems very far-fetched.
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Not nearly as far fetched as surviving as long as he did in the freezing water at the end.

We can explain all we want but let's not forget this is a Bond film... ;)
 
Orange_Blend said:
Not nearly as far fetched as surviving as long as he did in the freezing water at the end.

We can explain all we want but let's not forget this is a Bond film... ;)
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Yeah, the part in the end where he jumped into icy water, dived down, and came up without getting hypothermia and had enough energy to throw a knife didn't seem very possible to me. And he was in the water for a looong time... (a few minutes or so)
 
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