DARTH SABER
Master Member
The context of how the Genesis works was spread across two whole movies instead of just one. And unlike Red Matter, the Genesis device was only used ONCE. As for the "sometimes requires a dead planet" argument, that a simulation.
So the Trek Fan rule book states that contrived plot devices are given a free pass if they span more than one film or used more than once? :lol
How conveneient!
BTW, it Didnt look like a simulatioin inside that cave....It looked like actual results.
Plus the Reliant wasn't in empty space when the Genesis Device detonated. It was in the Mutara Nebula. You know, Nebulas are bodies of gas and dust. If you watch the scene with the Genesis planet beginning to form, you can see it actually consuming the nebula. And once the Genesis planet has finished, the Nebula is gone. .
So we can now introduce our own fan explanations into films? AWESOME !!
In that case - the reason the Narada and spock's ship werent destroyed the first time they went through the black hole was because, SPock's ship was specifically designed to withstand the gravitational force of a black hole (as explained in the Prequel Comic when Geordi custom designed the ship for him).
The Narada was constructed using Borg technology (As explained in the prequel comic)....Also, the Narada's hull wasnt damaged or compromised, and the Narada wasnt trying to pull away from the black hole with significant resisting force.
At the end of the film The Narada's hull was compromised by the collision of Spocks ship...And add the fact that the red matter was detonated inside the ship (meaning the gravitational force would be pulling the Narada in on itself, ), and add to the fact that the Enterprise opened fire on the Narada, further compromising the ship's integrity.
As for the Enterprise breaking up, well, the enterprise was at full warp pulling away from the force of the black hole...Two opposing forces will result in stress on the ship......Much different scenario than the first time Nero and Spocks ship went through the black hole.
And it didn't create it's own sun
And yet, there it was..... And inside the cave too!