Ben Burtt has literally said that's what they did. In ANH at least.Then I reread your post, and you're saying they did mic and record from a speaker.
But not the ONLY thing, surely.
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Ben Burtt has literally said that's what they did. In ANH at least.Then I reread your post, and you're saying they did mic and record from a speaker.
Ben Burtt has literally said that's what they did. In ANH at least.
But not the ONLY thing, surely.
What does a Hyperdyne Vortex do and what is the alternate product that you mention?
I was just thinking, one good way of working on re-creating the Vader voice effect would be to use a sample JEJ's voice to work from and then tweak it to match yours. I think that there's lots of good samples to use in Coming to America, in it he lowers the pitch of his voice so it's more Vader like and the speech pattern is Vader like as well. Then once you've got the settings down for JEJ it's only a matter of tweaking them for yours and learning to actually speak, not just sound, like Vader.
Just found this:
Another concern for Burtt was that the recorded dialogue of Jones did not sound as if it was coming from a helmet, so at night he played back the dialogue in various rooms and re-recorded it to get the right acoustics on tape.
From this article:
http://www.starwars.com/news/from-concept-to-screen-bringing-darth-vader-to-life
But, back to the topic... I noticed during Rebels Season 2.1, Vader didn't quite sound right. I know Jones is older at this point, and that could quite be it.. but i wonder if the filter is different too.
I was just thinking, one good way of working on re-creating the Vader voice effect would be to use a sample JEJ's voice to work from and then tweak it to match yours. I think that there's lots of good samples to use in Coming to America, in it he lowers the pitch of his voice so it's more Vader like and the speech pattern is Vader like as well. Then once you've got the settings down for JEJ it's only a matter of tweaking them for yours and learning to actually speak, not just sound, like Vader.
From my guitarist point-of-view, I can make out that the voice is doubled, and that there's some form of modulation involved. Now, with doubling, we have straight up doubling with a very short delay (less than 100ms) on one end of the scale, and flanging (doubling where the doubled voice is stretched/compressed with an LFO iirc) on the other side of the scale. Inbeteen these two lies the Chorus effect where the delay is very short and the frequency of the modulation pretty fast.I always hear and read articles about Ben Burtt's awesome, yet simple, creation of Vader's breathing sound, but never anything on how Ben (or perhaps someone else) altered James Earl Jones' voice when delivering Darth Vader's lines. On this topic, I have a few questions:
1) How did they (I'm guessing it was Ben Burtt) alter JEJ voice? Did they have him speak into a voice-altering device (perhaps similar to the ones Hyperdyne makes) while recording his lines? Or did they record his unaltered voice reading the lines, and then alter it in the sound studio?
2) If JEJ's voice was altered in the sound studio, how did they do it? What effects did they use to give his voice that incredible, singular sound?
3) If you don't know how they did it, do you know anyone who has been successful in altering an actor's voice in the studio to make it sound a lot like JEJ's Vader?
4) If you don't know anyone who's been successful in altering an actor's voice in the studio, can you refer me to any fan films in which Vader appears and sounds close to JEJ's Vader?
5) There is one fan film I'm aware of, in which Vader's voice is done quite well, called Knight Quest. But it was made 15 years ago, and I have not been able to find an email addy for either the film's creator, Joe Monroe, or the film's Vader voice actor, Ben Fletcher, to inquire. If you know how I can get in touch with them, or anyone else who worked on that film and might know how to contact them, I'd appreciate it. I read somewhere that Ben Fletcher voiced Vader in a number of fan productions, so you may know him from some other Star Wars fan film(s). Here is a link to Knight Quest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc_sDKoLMJg
Thanks!
The Wook
I wouldn't be too surprised if the sound team on Rebels don't know the secret (for whatever reason) behind creating Vader's voice so they had to recreate it on their own and in doing so haven't got it quite right. It's also possible that JEJ himself, having not voiced Vader in some years I think, has sort of forgotten how to do Vader's voice. It's obvious that he doesn't quite use his regular speaking voice or speech pattern as Vader so he had to try to remember what he did and reacquaint himself with Vader's voice.
Waaay back, STARLOG publisher Terry O'Quinn published an account of the SW 10th anniversary convention in which they did a bit with someone in an LFL Vader suit performing to a prerecorded JEJ track. Terry directed the recording, and JEJ asked him "what does Vader sound like?" Terry had to run out and grab a "story of" album so Jones could listen to what he'd done before.
Na,...all you need is a cup or a jar,.....so Peter Serafinowicz says, 1:30:
https://youtu.be/_i6XIADJ8sc?t=92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpQOXHBRY8E
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