darth_myeek
Sr Member
I just want to say people... Get A Life! It's just a sub-forum.
...when someone flat out says "you belong at another site (DeAg's forums) not here" that can come off as snobbery and certainly isn't welcoming.
I would recommend you watch this video clip, and if, once it's finished if you still don't understand the difference between the two forums then.. there's a good chance you'll never get it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sCReGjfZ_A
But now I'm thinking about grinding all of the surface panels smooth and then redoing the hull plating out of styrene sheet and using kit parts where possible. I wonder if then it would qualify as "Studio Scale" and I could return to posting with the grown ups?
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But now I'm thinking about grinding all of the surface panels smooth and then redoing the hull plating out of styrene sheet and using kit parts where possible. I wonder if then it would qualify as "Studio Scale" and I could return to posting with the grown ups?
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Or maybe even installing a studio accurate cockpit in a Blue X, which was originally empty. Or how about using current technology such as CNC instead of wonky, hand-cut models....sure! These are just a few of examples from the endless combination of scenarios.
Overall, does the model (it's origin, construction, and detail) closelu capture the essence of the real thing? Then it is SS. The D.Falcon does not. It includes a full interior AND different cockpit then the 32"er. I also can't find one real greeblie. These things are the primary reasons that it is not SS.
I also believe that most SS garage kits should remain in SS and not here since a lot of research and time has been spent replicating the originals. The fact that the person assembling it didn't actually build it is an irrelevant point. It still REPLICATES the original model.
Joe
It doesn't work when someone brings up the interior. No one is going to argue that maybe there was an interior in the filming models, but other people have posted that they will do what I'm going to do--close that baby up and seal it tight. Not buying a single AM thing for the interior, not painting, etc. I'll put it in there just so I have a place to store it and it might support the structure. I can't imagine there is a way to leave it "openable" and not show in some way, so I'll glue it down, just like any other model part. As for the cockpit, that's a little like your mention of putting a cockpit into a Blue X. Finally, IF (and it's very big "if" that I don't know the answer to) what's left is a ship that is very, very, very close to the 32-inch filming model--or, dare I say it, exactly--then, it starts to sound like a SS kit "using current technology such as CNC instead of wonky, hand-cut models."
If you can't find any greeblies, either you haven't looked or we have a different understanding of the word greeblie. What comes to mind is the details under the engine exhaust, for instance. I haven't seen how the upper engine deck will be, but I hope it's full of separate (what I think of as) greeblies because that area really needs that feel.
If garage kits count as SS because of all the research and time spent to replicate the originals, well, again, we're back to the DeAgo kit, which has indeed required a lot of research and time.
None of this is meant to argue that the D. Falcon is in fact SS. But the arguments tend to be full of fallacies and holes and inconsistencies. What I have come to understand about SS is that it is about a model that is the same as the filming model with all or nearly all details matching. This is why a certain 1/24th scale resin Y-wing being sold is not SS--too much, or total, creative license with the details. Seems like a more cut and clear case. My understanding is that the D.Falcon doesn't have this same issue. It has all kinds of details molded on that would be separate greeblies on something build from scratch. But even the available SS kits (those still accepted as such, I guess) have greeblies that were originally separate parts molded together as one. I don't think too many people think that the D.Falcon is a simpler way to get to something on the same level as one of the ships build from scratch, but there is definitely a movement to make that expressly clear.
I think you have made a very valid and succinct statement there and I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Personally I am glad that the Deagostini Falcon threads were moved, so that now builders can post their builds without the threads being hijacked.
My main gripe now is that the rules of what is considered "Studio Scale" have not been updated. By the very definition of these rules, the Deago Falcon still qualifies as Studio Scale.
Maybe SS needs two distinct forums for "People who roll up their sleeves" and "People who just don't have as much time/energy/money."