ROTS Obi-wan and Anakin lightsaber Project (OWK preview on pg 11)

[eethan]

Just occurred to me, in order to get the knurling all the way to each band, would the clamp have to be three rings? I imagine the cutter would be conical, so you couldn't get that pyramid up against the flat bands....

I have thought about this a bit as well and it's actually even weirder, if you check out this reference, on the left side, the knurling stops perfectly alined, letting me think of separated parts like you are mentioning. Now, if you look on the right side, the knurling continues and forms a round recess on each line, like it was cut with a round tool that went slightly further on the right:

 

[thd9791]

I have thought about this a bit as well and it's actually even weirder, if you check out this reference, on the left side, the knurling stops perfectly alined, letting me think of separated parts like you are mentioning. Now, if you look on the right side, the knurling continues and forms a round recess on each line, like it was cut with a round tool that went slightly further on the right:
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Maybe thats an artifact from the resin casting before chrome plating? Here is the metal hero, almost seems that the knurled section just extends beyond 1/2 of a pyramid on the right side

very confusing lol

 

[eethan]

on that photo you posted you can see the round recesses on each line on the left this time

 

[MojaveTrooper]

Maybe thats an artifact from the resin casting before chrome plating? Here is the metal hero, almost seems that the knurled section just extends beyond 1/2 of a pyramid on the right side
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very confusing lol

Interestingly enough, here's what it looks like on the Master Replicas which supposedly replicated that prop..

Maybe it's my eyes playing tricks... but it does look a bit more extended on the right side. Maybe I'm just losing my mind

 

[BRRogers]

The metal ILM prop has 50% of a pyramid on one side and 60% on the other….. It is EXTREMELY crisp/ sharp points

The hypothesis I’d propose is they machined the pyramid knurling on a longer section, and then cut it down to size and fitting it in between the two rings for assembly of the clamp.

The parts (cast from it) would have then captured that detail in varying degrees of clarity across the rest of the metallized plastic components. As Tom suggests, the round bit ‘scalloping’ is probably a result of the casting process

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Just occurred to me, in order to get the knurling all the way to each band, would the clamp have to be three rings? I imagine the cutter would be conical, so you couldn't get that pyramid up against the flat bands....

Yes. The clamp has to be three rings. Also, we keep calling the center portion the "knurled" section. But this part was not made with a knurling tool. It's a lathe and mill operation.

 

[guabe]

Yes. The clamp has to be three rings. Also, we keep calling the center portion the "knurled" section. But this part was not made with a knurling tool. It's a lathe and mill operation.

Yup, not knurling and 3 parts. In order to get half pyramids at the edge is almost impossible to machine properly.

 

[BRRogers]

For consideration:
Knurling is an end use surface detail defined by a patterned protuberance on the surface of an object for the purpose of gripping. There are specific tools to produce knurling (knurling tools) but they are limited in their application. Knurling- or knurled sections can be applied / created via any machining or manual operation and will be referred to as knurling as long as it meets that definition. The grip on the Aniflex *is* a pyramid knurl- which does exit as a pattern in smaller specific knurl tooling however was achieved by lathe and mill operation instead.
For ease of reference I believe it can, and should, by definition be considered knurling due to being defined as a patterned protuberance from a surface for gripping.

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with love, and respect, and willingness to be shown otherwise

 

[MojaveTrooper]

So the theory is that they based on the Skinnyflex on the Ranch Graflex. Is there a reference to show the shape of the knurling on the tape of the Ranch Saber? I find it interesting that it’s a pyramid knurl on the Hero hilt versus it being more cubed on the Stunt hilt:

 

[Benjo]

So the theory is that they based on the Skinnyflex on the Ranch Graflex. Is there a reference to show the shape of the knurling on the tape of the Ranch Saber? I find it interesting that it’s a pyramid knurl on the Hero hilt versus it being more cubed on the Stunt hilt:

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Looks more like cube shapes on the Ranch lightsaber. I'm not sure they paid so much attention to replicate such details as the knurling shapes.

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

For consideration:
Knurling is an end use surface detail defined by a patterned protuberance on the surface of an object for the purpose of gripping. There are specific tools to produce knurling (knurling tools) but they are limited in their application. Knurling- or knurled sections can be applied / created via any machining or manual operation and will be referred to as knurling as long as it meets that definition. The grip on the Aniflex *is* a pyramid knurl- which does exit as a pattern in smaller specific knurl tooling however was achieved by lathe and mill operation instead.
For ease of reference I believe it can, and should, by definition be considered knurling due to being defined as a patterned protuberance from a surface for gripping.


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with love, and respect, and willingness to be shown otherwise

Fair enough. Just thought, since we're talking "how was this made?" we should note that it wasn't with a knurling tool.

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Fair enough. Just thought, since we're talking "how was this made?" we should note that it wasn't with a knurling tool.

This doesn't add much to the conversation... But thought some folk might be interested in seeing what my hand made Anakin saber looks like.

Turned this on a lathe a while back. And was able to repurpose some leftover parts (with mods) from OM and an old force fx saber

 

[guabe]

Love it.

 

[Reel Fakes]

Since you brought it up... When's the Anakin saber gonna be ready?

 

[MojaveTrooper]

I asked that as well a while back, never got a reply

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Probably some time in the fall. It's behind OWK SS, Ahsoka, Sabine, and one or two other secret projects.

 

[Gregatron]

Got the alternate clamp card on there, I see!

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

This is how my model does the knurling. Let me know if you guys see anything that could/should be changed

 

[Reel Fakes]

I think the pyramids are a bit taller and have tiny plateaus:

 

[Gregatron]

Setting aside that it looks cool, the knurling has always kinda bugged me, because:

A. They modeled it after the tape on the Ranch saber (the one surviving ESB saber sent to Fox Studios Australia for reference in building the ROTS props), which never actually appeared in ESB proper;

B. It just seems really impractical and uncomfortable to hold, especially in combat.

But it still looks cool!