Tan Djarka
Sr Member
Maybe it's because I'm not familiar with the source material, but there's nothing about the trailer that makes me want to see the movie. Based on box office returns, I'm not the only one.
This thing has tanked already. HARD. Only $56 million worldwide. And the average theater going person doesn't realize this is not a direct Avengers et. al film. It takes place in the SONY Spiderman Universe (and is a prequel to those recent films). So there is brand dilution, which may hurt future Marvel films.
I think the suits behind this movie might still end up on the profit side sadly. I read the budget on wiki as 80 million but saw anther story that it might be close to 100 million. Who knows if marketing is included or not. Some double the given budget so 160 to 200 million but that sounds like too much. As I didn't see that many commercials. And flying the cast around shouldn't get up to those numbers. Right now, Madame Web is around 91 million. Plus, on Box Office Mojo I don't see Box Office numbers from China. Add in physical sales. Plus, all the upcoming cable, TV, and streaming distribution and I wouldn't be surprised if they scrape by a small profit.
But the question is how much will this damage the possible Spider-Woman film? I think I mentioned here how bad I thought Don't Worry Darling was. And the people behind that were linked to the upcoming Spider-Woman. Don't Worry Darling is another movie that managed to be profitable. Part of me wouldn't be surprised if they continue with their plans.
I don't think that there's that much confusion that this is not an MCU movie. Sony has been releasing these Spider-Man less movies for a while now starting with Venom. So I think that most movie goers realize going into the movie that this movie has 0 ties to the MCU and won't feature Spider-Man.This thing has tanked already. HARD. Only $56 million worldwide. And the average theater going person doesn't realize this is not a direct Avengers et. al film. It takes place in the SONY Spiderman Universe (and is a prequel to those recent films). So there is brand dilution, which may hurt future Marvel films.
Tell that to the stars of the film, who tried to link in the MCU when they announced they had been cast. People are just dumb.I don't think that there's that much confusion that this is not an MCU movie. Sony has been releasing these Spider-Man less movies for a while now starting with Venom. So I think that most movie goers realize going into the movie that this movie has 0 ties to the MCU and won't feature Spider-Man.
They’d be hypocrites, if that’s true. XDI listened to a youtuber who was speculating (citing bits of specific circumstantial evidence) that the Madame Web script was an AI job.
That's an oversimplification, of course. (Saying "the movie was written with AI" is like saying "The special effects were done with CGI".) But the writers were in over their heads and facing a fast deadline. It looks like they turned in a script with too much cut-n-pasted AI content and not enough human editing/reworking.
They’d be hypocrites, if that’s true. XD
Dakota Johnson says the script they showed her was not what they filmed. I have no idea how true that is, but apparently, they didn't have a complete, finalized script when they were casting.I listened to a youtuber who was speculating (citing bits of specific circumstantial evidence) that the Madame Web script was an AI job.
That's an oversimplification, of course. (Saying "the movie was written with AI" is like saying "The special effects were done with CGI".) But the writers were in over their heads and facing a fast deadline. It looks like they turned in a script with too much cut-n-pasted AI content and not enough human editing/reworking.
Which is usually a pretty bad idea; just ask JJ Abrams' and his "sequel trilogy".Dakota Johnson says the script they showed her was not what they filmed. I have no idea how true that is, but apparently, they didn't have a complete, finalized script when they were casting.