Lucasfilm to Strike Back March 7th - Lucasfilm vs Andrew Ainsworth

[nailuj]

Are you all still banging on about AA winning ?

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Are you still trolling? Bring something to the thread. The facts are out there. Do some of the same research we have.

 

[Dpp1978]

Are you all still banging on about AA winning ?

He didn't win.

He lost on his claim to the copyright; the judge at trial confirmed that any legal rights capable of existing in the various items AA fabricated belonged to LFL.

It was only because the items were deemed to be utilitarian in their nature and therefore incapable of having copyright attach to them, and that the alternative design rights' period of protection had expired before AA's infringing acts that LFL wasn't capable of enforcing them. He got lucky. Now the design to the Stormtrooper is in the public domain in the UK he is free to make and sell his items here. But then again so am I and so is anyone else who lives in the UK.

If the judge had ruled the items were sculptural, which could easily have happened, LFL could have claimed damages for every infringing item he had made.

AA didn't win; LFL lost. That is not the same thing.

The second part of the appeal went against him. Now LFL can potentially sue him for any breaches of copyright law outside the UK in the English courts.

Just because the papers report something with a certain amount of spin because it makes for a better story doesn't make it so.

 

[ghostryder]

Did Liz Moor's son ever link up with AA? Wonder if he has pics of his mother's work on the helmet.

 

[carbonitekid]

Sorry to necro a thread but I just had to share this;

Having got tired of being approached by pro AA members of the public at events (I'm 501st ) I have had this printed up.

Atleast now the word is geting out from the get go.

 

[Clutch]

Lol! Phone number have any significance?

 

[Apollo]

:lol You have taken the word AWESOME up another level! :lol


I would say do a run of those shirts but if he found out you can bet he would come after you!

 

[ghostryder]

 

[Amish Trooper]

Recast.

 

[carbonitekid]

Lol! Phone number have any significance?

London Metropolitan Police, Fraud Squad :thumbsup

:lol You have taken the word AWESOME up another level! :lol


I would say do a run of those shirts but if he found out you can bet he would come after you!

I'm hoping he's going to be at London Expo/Memorabillia so I can show him in person.:angel

 

[voice in the crowd]

Cool $10,000,000 - I presume you want him alive? :lol

 

[carbonitekid]

I'm easy either way.

However , it might be interesting to find out if you can replicate the carbon freezing process using a large enough sheet of ABS, a Vac former and an (un)willing participant.

I'm figuring a few would like that hanging on their wall.

 

[OldKen]

WARNING THIS POST MAY CAUSE YOUR BRAIN TO EXPLODE!
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You want a real mind bender?

If AA made a HIC with HIS likeness...

And a member recast it...

THEN would buying a recasteded something seem OK for this special occasion?

I know I would love one... But would never buy from him...

 

[KaanE]

WARNING THIS POST MAY CAUSE YOUR BRAIN TO EXPLODE!

KABOOM!

I'm sorry for the offtopic. Anyway, still waiting for a court decision?

 

[geordietrooper]

Anyway, still waiting for a court decision?

done & dusted

 

[starwarsfanatic]

Just a quick question...... Did any evidence ever surface about the genesis of the "red clay" "gray clay" sculpture come to light. I've heard of Liz Moore and never heard of Pemberton before, that doesn't mean that a rookie couldn't hit a homerun and then never be heard from again. There's been A LOT of back and forth regarding "who" designed what, and when it was done and who they talked to about it. Ainsworth WAS a vacufomer....no one argues that, correct? Has it ever been answered one way or the other (with some sort of proof) as to who actually sculpted the clay model, Moore or Pemberton?

Thanks!!

 

[Apollo]

Moore sculpted it iirc.

AA is a huckster and a delusional liar

 

[starwarsfanatic]

Yes, I agree that AA is a bit full of himself when it comes to his actual sculpting of anything. While reading through ALL 27 fun filled pages of this thread I pulled up a pdf. of the UK decision and it looked like the Judge, because of the testimony by Liz Moore's BF at the time and his testimony that the clay was grey lays ownership of the original model on Pemberton. Her son, Dan, was gonna have a meeting with AA to clear the air about his mother's involvement in the creation of the helmet. Do you know if that meeting ever took place....this was three years ago I guess. In the large scale it was the copyright of the armor and the "art" vs. "industrial design" that was being fought, so maybe the name of the clay sculptor fell between the cracks.

I have NO INTENTION OF REOPENING THIS ARGUEMENT!!! I'm just looking for the answer to a question that seemed to be whispered about but not truly answered.

Thanks! You guys are the 'authority" when it comes to navigating the miasma of Star Wars knowledge.

 

[Apollo]

Brian Muir who is a member here and wrote a GREAT book, "In The Shadow Of Vader", get it, a must, testified that LIZ sculpted the Helmet and He sculpted the Trooper Armor

 

[starwarsfanatic]

Thanks