Final Mass Effect 3 due out tomorrow
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lol yeah but i doubt it would make you seem like a pretentious tool like it does with him.
Is it wrong of me that i'm still not really sure about the Asari and how they reproduce lol. I'm amazed they are able to do anything physical with other races since they really don't need to in order to get pregnant. They really avoided that entire thing in the games, it would have given a few good chuckles at Liara's expense if mentioned in game.
DuneMuadDib
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They reproduce via space magic, of course. Just hopefully not the same space magic the cruicle fires, because that would be... awkward.
They still presumably give birth in the normal human(oid) way so they should have equivalent bits that would lend towards physical intimacy with other species regardless of the actual means of reproduction.
They still presumably give birth in the normal human(oid) way so they should have equivalent bits that would lend towards physical intimacy with other species regardless of the actual means of reproduction.
I'm still playing ME1 for the first time, in the new PS3 trilogy edition. Is it my imagination or were the Asari kind of...rehabilitated in the other two games? They're really presented (so far) a little bit unflatteringly in the first game. Space tarts, not to put too fine a point on it.
In the other games they're basically the Minbari. Not so much in the first one!
In the other games they're basically the Minbari. Not so much in the first one!
DuneMuadDib
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Okay, so read a number of responses and info on the DLC and watched a bit of it on youtube. Bioware has given up all claim to any of my money. Holy crap.
Also telling is what their employees are saying to fans. In response to a post on the Bioware forums saying "I just lol-ed at the price , the whole game , Mass Effect 3 cost 18-20$ Brand New and Sealed. And this DLC 15$ ? I don't think so LOL." Bioware's Community Coordinator, ****** Priestly said:
Now to be fair the post he's replying to reads like it's written by a 15 y/o, and I would expect that the Bioware people are beyond tired of all their hard work going unappreciated by so many vocal player. Really though, his job title sure sounds like customer relations, and that's how he's speaking to a customer on the company's forum as a representative of the company? Completely unprofessional. Stuff like that makes me ashamed to have given Bioware any of my money in the first place.
The villian of the DLC is a Cerebus-made Shepard clone leading a rogue faction of Cerebus uber-mooks who think TIM is bonkers. The mission is being compared to Ocean's Eleven. The fan service comes off like fan fiction. Haven't looked at all the romance clips yet, but in the Tali one she makes Shepards watch "Fleets and Flotillas" or whatever the name of that movie is and enables sing-along mode. I threw up in my mouth a little watching the clip.
Also telling is what their employees are saying to fans. In response to a post on the Bioware forums saying "I just lol-ed at the price , the whole game , Mass Effect 3 cost 18-20$ Brand New and Sealed. And this DLC 15$ ? I don't think so LOL." Bioware's Community Coordinator, ****** Priestly said:
Now to be fair the post he's replying to reads like it's written by a 15 y/o, and I would expect that the Bioware people are beyond tired of all their hard work going unappreciated by so many vocal player. Really though, his job title sure sounds like customer relations, and that's how he's speaking to a customer on the company's forum as a representative of the company? Completely unprofessional. Stuff like that makes me ashamed to have given Bioware any of my money in the first place.
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DuneMuadDib
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Well the most prominent Asari in ME1 aside from Liara are a hooker and Benezia's chest. They don't really have a sampling that reflects positively on the species.
I guess. But even the background material (codex stuff and so on) seems to have quite a different slant on the species. The randy behaviour of the 'maiden' stage seems to be emphasised. Then again, even in 2 there was that remark about Asari/Hanar porn. Urrrgh, the mind boggles. :lol
I hear you on the DLC price ratio but...$20? Woo, you pay five times that here. Which is why, of course, we don't; I wouldn't have spent a cent since 2 personally but the wife is addicted. But at least she buys online.
I hear you on the DLC price ratio but...$20? Woo, you pay five times that here. Which is why, of course, we don't; I wouldn't have spent a cent since 2 personally but the wife is addicted. But at least she buys online.
DuneMuadDib
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Well Aus charges out the backside for all their games, right? It retailed for $60 here for standard copy but the price dropped like a rock after the ending hoopla started. I should see what it costs on direct play just for giggles. I'm willing to bet it's less than the DLCs, even not counting the Day 1 stuff.
I would say it comes off more like a parody than fan fiction. I know for a fact that there are good fan fiction stories out there that do a better job at conveying these characters motivations and personality than resorting to things that everyone knows about and grinding it into the ground.
You also have to take into account that Priestly is the biggest employee troll on that site, he verbally abuses anyone who disagrees with bioware and is in charge of PR for them. He's an EA yesman all the way. I honestly think that EA has replaced everyone in bioware with yesmen or they're all so worried about losing their jobs they just do what EA and the idiots who messed up ME3 tell them.
Priestly is one of two mods/admins on that forum that went on a mass banning spree when people complained about the game. If he opens his mouth expect BS or abuse to come out of it sadly. Also to be fair a lot of the twits on the forums wanted more fan service so they're giving the biggest whiners what they wanted instead of a good game. Need to get the 13 year olds to buy a game meant for 18 year olds. Bioware's in trouble as they already shut down the studio working on the new dragon age it seems.
DuneMuadDib
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Fan fiction tends to be perceived as amateurish, which is the implication I was relaying from impressions others had shared. No offense to the fan fiction writers, I've read some good ones and some self-indulgent too clever tripe.
Wes, it's funny how all the people EA/Bioware employes for public relations are complete asshats to the customers/players (Priestly, Merizan) and the guys who aren't (Patrick Weekes) are actually respectful. As a consumer it's disgusting, as a former customer service employee it's embarrassing. I know if I had even politely said something to the effect of half the stuff they've said I'd have been out on my ass.
They shut down the studio doing Dragon Age? Yikes. That's gone, people won't pay to play SW:TOR. I wonder who EA's going to farm ME4 out to when Bioware just gets dissolved.
Patrick was the guy we kept hoping would post more but they had him on a leash. I wish EA would sell Mass effect to a company like happened with Halo. A nice small company like 343 who loves the material and will do it justice. Be nice if EA would let bioware and visceral go back to being independent companies but that's a pipe dream.
DuneMuadDib
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Well Halo was more a case of Microsoft owned the rights to Halo when they cut a deal with Bungie to make it for the XBOX, then bought Bungie, then kept some Bungie employees on to run the new Halo studio when Bungie went independent again. 343's really just son-of-Bungie. I doubt EA would give up Mass Effect, which is the best thing that could happen to it.
Forums sure are appreciating that Jen Hale quote a lot more today in context. Yeesh.
Forums sure are appreciating that Jen Hale quote a lot more today in context. Yeesh.
Even talking to the other Asari, especially the bartender in the 2nd game who i am pretty sure is Liara's "dad", they're all pretty wild when they're younger either working as mercenaries or in strip clubs. Then they mature and get real jobs and then they mature more and become Matriarchs. You just see a lot of them shaking their butts in the first game lol
It's not so much Australia as an entity as vendors and retailers, but yes, everything here is expensive. There was a parliamentary commission into it which basically debunked the claim it's all about taxes, duties and long distance transport costs; it's much more about what marketing divisions think they can get. And the fact that they think people don't realise how badly they're being ripped off.
The times, they are a-changin', of course. So much so that a year or two back, instead of, say, adjusting their pricing policies (gasp! nooo!) a gaggle of large retailers formed an association to lobby the government to tax overseas Internet purchases harshly.
This didn't go down too well with, basically, the whole of the rest of the country. :lol
Which one was that?
Yep. So what is with Liara, then...she's just a nerdy outcast? :lol
DuneMuadDib
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Solo4114
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Wow. This is sounding worse and worse.
Honestly, I might buy the occasional EA game now, but I do try to steer clear of the company anymore. I don't like how the keep trying to monetize everything with microtransactions and, while BF3 was fun, it got tiresome after a while and Premium was definitely not worth it. Taking over Bioware basically killed it.
I could see a scenario where the former creative folks from Bioware just head out, re-form, and say "Screw you" to EA and do it over.
It's interesting. I've seen these same kinds of cycles in the field in which I work, where larger entities gobble up smaller ones, then it doesn't work because of culture clashes and such, and the smaller guys break away for another 15 years before the cycle begins anew.
We're seeing this some with the larger entities that gobbled up small development houses in the last 15 years or so. With things like Kickstarter, it seems like the industry is shifting slowly.
Honestly, I might buy the occasional EA game now, but I do try to steer clear of the company anymore. I don't like how the keep trying to monetize everything with microtransactions and, while BF3 was fun, it got tiresome after a while and Premium was definitely not worth it. Taking over Bioware basically killed it.
I could see a scenario where the former creative folks from Bioware just head out, re-form, and say "Screw you" to EA and do it over.
It's interesting. I've seen these same kinds of cycles in the field in which I work, where larger entities gobble up smaller ones, then it doesn't work because of culture clashes and such, and the smaller guys break away for another 15 years before the cycle begins anew.
We're seeing this some with the larger entities that gobbled up small development houses in the last 15 years or so. With things like Kickstarter, it seems like the industry is shifting slowly.
Kickstarter is for sure helping small companies get out into the mainstream. The creators of fallout and wasteland never would have got wasteland 2 off the ground without it and he even explained that and thanked us in several videos he shot. The same with shadowrun returns, they'd never have gotten the rights to shadowrun (which all those involved actually created for Fasa) to make the game let alone connect it to the genesis and snes version.
