Millenniumf
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Looks like they used a slightly enlarged version of it for the main surface panels on the underside, too.
Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior
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Vidar 710
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Those drawings are well done! I tid-bit for correction if I may...
I noticed this because I've already started mapping out the deflector patterns for my masters.
In short, the top pattern is in 16deg wedges while the bottom pattern is in 15deg wedges. Both have a common gridline down the center-beam of the saucer to the bow of the saucer as a starting point.
That's why the top grid aligns with the thrusters and phaser banks, while the bottom pattern aligns with the nav lights at port n starboard.
Tracy
I noticed this because I've already started mapping out the deflector patterns for my masters.
In short, the top pattern is in 16deg wedges while the bottom pattern is in 15deg wedges. Both have a common gridline down the center-beam of the saucer to the bow of the saucer as a starting point.
That's why the top grid aligns with the thrusters and phaser banks, while the bottom pattern aligns with the nav lights at port n starboard.
Tracy
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Vidar 710
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Graphics being worked out for the panels under the impulse engine exhaust ports.
A basic pattern was provided and printed it out. It still needs to be fitted properly in my scale. There are some refined details needed to be added... i.e., the bottom set of panels are not one section. They are actually divided up into 5 squares.
The pattern seen here is the original paint scheme. The only Excelsior's that sported this version before the first repaint were the NX Excelsior, the Hood, the Repulse, and the Melbourne. After that the studio model was repainted to give her a face lift for the big screen in Star Trek VI as the NCC Excelsior.
I did a test with pencil to draft in the weathering just to see how it turns out.
Tracy
A basic pattern was provided and printed it out. It still needs to be fitted properly in my scale. There are some refined details needed to be added... i.e., the bottom set of panels are not one section. They are actually divided up into 5 squares.
The pattern seen here is the original paint scheme. The only Excelsior's that sported this version before the first repaint were the NX Excelsior, the Hood, the Repulse, and the Melbourne. After that the studio model was repainted to give her a face lift for the big screen in Star Trek VI as the NCC Excelsior.
I did a test with pencil to draft in the weathering just to see how it turns out.
Tracy
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Vidar 710
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To get all the above to work, the arse-end of the superstructure master needed to be corrected to the right shape and profile.
Here a paper template was made using a scaled image of the studio model to get the exact shape of the impulse exhaust region.
Sturdier styrene templates were fabricated to use as guides on where to add the sculpting material. You can also see here where the unwanted resin material is.
The exhaust had to be removed for a couple of reasons.
1. Easier to vacuum form the master.
2. Refined details on the top of the exhaust ports would be better scratch built.
This shows just how far off the Lunar Models shape really is with the sculpting material in place. The scribed line on the side of the master shows what needs to be removed.
After removing the unwanted resin material, the entire aft end is blended together.
A fresh coat of primer reveals the now corrected shape of the aft end of the superstructure. IT IS DONE and ready to be molded so a plaster buck for vacuum forming can be cast.
With the corrections made, the size-n-shape of the impulse engine exhaust port's footprint has been determined - as I said earlier, the exhaust ports will be scratch built from sheet styrene. The surface area's size-n-shape under the exhaust for the large blue graphics panels (as scene above) has also been determined.
Sorry for the delays. I'm flying the Boeing 777 now which means I'm away more than I'm home for the mean time.
Tracy
Here a paper template was made using a scaled image of the studio model to get the exact shape of the impulse exhaust region.
Sturdier styrene templates were fabricated to use as guides on where to add the sculpting material. You can also see here where the unwanted resin material is.
The exhaust had to be removed for a couple of reasons.
1. Easier to vacuum form the master.
2. Refined details on the top of the exhaust ports would be better scratch built.
This shows just how far off the Lunar Models shape really is with the sculpting material in place. The scribed line on the side of the master shows what needs to be removed.
After removing the unwanted resin material, the entire aft end is blended together.
A fresh coat of primer reveals the now corrected shape of the aft end of the superstructure. IT IS DONE and ready to be molded so a plaster buck for vacuum forming can be cast.
With the corrections made, the size-n-shape of the impulse engine exhaust port's footprint has been determined - as I said earlier, the exhaust ports will be scratch built from sheet styrene. The surface area's size-n-shape under the exhaust for the large blue graphics panels (as scene above) has also been determined.
Sorry for the delays. I'm flying the Boeing 777 now which means I'm away more than I'm home for the mean time.
Tracy
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Vidar 710
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The initial shape of the exhaust port extensions has been roughed out in sheet styrene. I'll grind them down to their final shaped after the cement has cured overnight. These extensions are based on the vertical line shown on the superstructure templates just above the exhaust ports.
Vidar 710
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Raised detail being added to the top surface.
The lower exhaust plate was added, and light weight filler was used to fill the cavity and give the masters strength.
After shaping everything by removing the excess styrene, the masters were coated in glazing putty to fill scratches in the surface.
After sanding smooth...
1.5mm styrene half dowels were added to the top surface's details.
To create more relief, the dowels were masked off and a thin layer of glazing putty was applied, allowed to cure, then sanded smooth.
Compairing to the studio model.
Impulse exhaust port masters completed; I taped them to the now finished superstructure master to see how they look.
The lower exhaust plate was added, and light weight filler was used to fill the cavity and give the masters strength.
After shaping everything by removing the excess styrene, the masters were coated in glazing putty to fill scratches in the surface.
After sanding smooth...
1.5mm styrene half dowels were added to the top surface's details.
To create more relief, the dowels were masked off and a thin layer of glazing putty was applied, allowed to cure, then sanded smooth.
Compairing to the studio model.
Impulse exhaust port masters completed; I taped them to the now finished superstructure master to see how they look.
Vidar 710
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Grill graphics for the impulse exhaust. I'm no good on a PC so I'm drawing them out by hand.
Oval Templates made to separate the thick and thin grill lines.
The ol' Elementary school making hearts for Valintine's Day technique to get mirror opposites.
Templates put in place...
Ovals left in place...
Tracing over the exposed grid lines to thicken them up.
Oval templates removed... Not bad for free hand.
Exhaust ports placed to see how they look.
Courtesy of ILM Excelsior Modeler Bill George, lit images of the studio model's impulse exhaust with my efforts.
These drawings - like my other graphics - will be scanned and cleaned up on the PC to be printed on to clear decal paper for the construction phase.
Tracy
Oval Templates made to separate the thick and thin grill lines.
The ol' Elementary school making hearts for Valintine's Day technique to get mirror opposites.
Templates put in place...
Ovals left in place...
Tracing over the exposed grid lines to thicken them up.
Oval templates removed... Not bad for free hand.
Exhaust ports placed to see how they look.
Courtesy of ILM Excelsior Modeler Bill George, lit images of the studio model's impulse exhaust with my efforts.
These drawings - like my other graphics - will be scanned and cleaned up on the PC to be printed on to clear decal paper for the construction phase.
Tracy
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