Alien Romulus Pulse Rifle?

Just my two-cents after seeing the pics of the prop. Given that the overall shape of the lower receiver (or at least the back/exposed part of it), the trigger controls, the mag release (specifically the bit protruding through the trigger-guard), and the bolt/charging handle, are all remnants of the Thompson M1A1, I suspect they probably stuck with that as their base gun and just built around it.
If so, it's only the Thompson's lower and the trigger guard has been modified along with the grip. The bottom of the trigger guard on the Thompson is straight and that piece that runs back from the rear of the grip to the stock wouldn't be visible on an assembled Thompson (if at all...I'd have to disassemble mine to see if it's there on a disassembled lower). I agree that this is probably just a Nerf or other commercially-available toy gun with an outer shell and greebles. The Thompson piece above the grip was likely just added as a callback to the Pulse Rifle.
 
I like it, I really like the kriss vector part. if this movie is suppose to take place between alien and aliens (57 year gap) then there should be ton's of tech nod's. I really hope this movie is good, PREY restored my faith in predator movie's.... :cool:
Quite excited for a 3rd good Alien movie! *cough... The trailer has all the visual feels. What could go wrong? :) As long as it has a story and some substance and the characters are memorable. That sounds like one of those 'can only choose 2/3 options' though. Fingers crossed!
 
Here’s what made the original Aliens 1986 props good: the Vietnam war analogy.

Military carbine 1969: M16A1
Military carbine 2179: M41A Pulse Rifle

The carbine is a very futuristic looking M16 with a very distinctive sound.

Military GPMG 1969: M60
Military GMPG 2179: M56 Smartgun

Aliens 1986 extrapolated what we had into the future in interesting ways.

This new Romulus prop just looks like any other plastic Nerf gun.
With respect, not sure I agree with any of that. The 60 design basically is stolen from the MG42, but the M41 & the M56 are terribly designed / impractical weapons. Aliens was certainly Vietnam war analogy, as many have already pointed out, but the props fell very short of extrapolating any future war tech. That's not an unduly harsh criticism, most movies age badly in respect to prop tech design (and it certainly doesn't make me love this movie any less).
 
With respect, not sure I agree with any of that. The 60 design basically is stolen from the MG42, but the M41 & the M56 are terribly designed / impractical weapons. Aliens was certainly Vietnam war analogy, as many have already pointed out, but the props fell very short of extrapolating any future war tech. That's not an unduly harsh criticism, most movies age badly in respect to prop tech design (and it certainly doesn't make me love this movie any less).



Oh I agree absolutely that the M56 Smartgun is an impractical weapon that would not pass any current milspec requirements. No current military weapon would have that many protrusions, loose wires, things that could snag, etc.

Also, a GPMG that is physically attached to a soldier? No way. No bipod, no way to go prone. Although the ACMTM does detail that the soldier prone position using the M56 is lying on their back with the weapon aiming down their feet… ok.

One could argue that the M56 HARNESS seen in Aliens is probably an “optional” item. The GMPG can probably be outfitted in numerous ways, with bipods, tripods, slings, etc. Vazquez and Drake probably chose the harness as the mission did not call for open field or long distance warfare, but walking along LV426 corridors. It also does have a fast release as Drake shows.

No, in my opinion the war tech shown in Aliens is very believable if you put yourself in that universe. It isn’t our current military. It is the military of 2179 seen through this style of art direction. Countless milspec requirements have come and gone, politics have changed countless times, corporations run everything.

Like the movie Idiocracy shows how everything can change with time. I think Aliens 1986 is really the unsafety conscious, unpolitically correct, pinnacle of beserk 1980’s thinking that if left unchecked would result in this future 200 years later:


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If you really like Aliens I really recommend the concept art of the game Aliens Colonial Marines. It’s on google. Syd Mead actually worked on the game and fleshed out his Sulaco interiors and other concepts. While the game was maligned at launch the current (patched) version is actually very good (even more so with the optional TemplarGFX pack). The script also ties in with the ACMTM.
 
In your opinion, what is the shape of this grid ?

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This is my guess so far :
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Do you think it could be an off-the-shelf Foldable Stock ?
Cause I'm not happy with my guess, it doesnt looks right to me (see bellow)
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Any idea of the type of screw/system this could be ?
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This is where I am at the moment (Work in Progress).
Tell me if you see something off...

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I won't claim to be a firearms encyclopedia, but if that's an aftermarket buttstock it certainly seems strangely designed. I'm not saying that there isn't some bizarre aftermarket stuff in the gun world, but that seems much more cobbled together. I can't find anything that even looks close on a brief internet search.
 
I won't claim to be a firearms encyclopedia, but if that's an aftermarket buttstock it certainly seems strangely designed. I'm not saying that there isn't some bizarre aftermarket stuff in the gun world, but that seems much more cobbled together. I can't find anything that even looks close on a brief internet search.
Same here (not a firearm specialist)...but I think you're right: something isn't kosher about that buttstock. Seems to me that another part was put on top of it:unsure:
 
In your opinion, what is the shape of this grid ?

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This i my guess so far :
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Do you think it could be an off-the-shelf Foldable Stock ?
Cause I'm not happy with my guess, it doesnt looks right to me (see bellow)
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Any idea of the type of screw/system this could be ?
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This is where I am at the moment (Work in Progress).
Tell me if you see something off...

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Excellent job. I'm not sure if the magazine and the magazine well bottom is parallel to the other features to the weapon. It actually bugs me that there is a slight angle of about 2 degrees.

If you don't mind a suggestion, you may want to redo the M203 grenade launcher handle to be a bit more "rounded"(?). However, the M203 handle has 11 "ribs" and the one pictured on the pulse rifle has 12, with the outer 2 ribs more pronounced, which gets me to speculate that this pulse rifle was either sculpted or 3d printed.

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TazMan2000
 
The screw is probably a type of Chicago screw, for example have a look here Home Page often used to clamp sides together as one half is threaded like a nut so you don't have to thread the part itself.

Also another observation, the pattern of holes next to the display has 12, your model has 10.
 
Kinda sorta maybe, looks a little like the M39 (labelled M3A in the concept drawings below) sub machine gun (little brother to the M41A) from Aliens: Colonial Marines, which is around the same timeframe (2179).

They kept the M41A flat front, square forward grip and firing grip mag connection.

The Romulus gun makes the same mistake many of these productions make, they make it look too futuristic. Cameron's Aliens Colonial Marines tech was 80's design pushed into the future. Not modern design. The A:CM game got that 100% right.

IDK This movie makes me wish Neil Blomkamp was able to do his version instead. It would have been FAR better/more immersive/more congruant with '86.
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A little update on the (3D) build :
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About the M203 references, it looks better now, but it can't be the same size as a real M203 (40mm), or the whole gun would be oversized !

+ I'll probably make room for the electronics.

But, please help ! I'm not sure what to do here.... :eek:
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For the scale, I took size references from my M41A Nerf :)
And it shoul look like this :

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Hi every one,
saw this thread and had a look, the NEW pulse rifle looks like a throw back to the version in aliens, the one that they made BEFORE they gotr it right. I agree it looks very cheap and is probably just a stunt unit...the hero I hope will be much better.



best regards Barrie ( the old guy ) ps in case you miDSCF3076.jpgssed it here is my own scratch built version of a pulse rifle.
 
A little update on the (3D) build :
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About the M203 references, it looks better now, but it can't be the same size as a real M203 (40mm), or the whole gun would be oversized !

+ I'll probably make room for the electronics.

But, please help ! I'm not sure what to do here.... :eek:
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For the scale, I took size references from my M41A Nerf :)
And it shoul look like this :

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Perhaps wait on more info coming out (maybe trailers), where you can see what the back of the buttstock looks like. I'm thinking it should be a plate with a knurled texture, but of course, that's just speculation. But things are looking really good. I'm being nitpicky, but the M203 grip (even though it's not an M203) has torus shapes along it's length with the outer toruses having a larger diameter.

TazMan2000
 
I'm warming to it... I think it looks like a cheap toy because of the paint scheme. I'd love to see how I feel about it if it was in the Aliens color scheme... or even just all black...
 
I love the speculation and hunt for details! Its exciting to have some new Aliens stuff! I don't dislike this one... it just looks like the starter sidearm from every shooter game of the last 10 years. The hero will look fancier though im sure. The 3d model is coming along great! Still waiting for Mr Savage to visit the set, inspect everything and fill in the blanks.
 

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