Deceased flesh and mummified corpses

cristobal · 07-17-2011, 06:20 PM

Hello ,
I am from Spain , an afficionate propmaker.
I need some help from specialists to make a realistic deceased skin texture as mummies.
I am planning to make a fairy mummy , and I have finished main sculpt.I´ve used supersculpey with armature wire.I am now covering it with thin layers of tissue to make wrinkles and add surface texture.
Question is : what will you use to paint it ?
An acrilic paint should be sufficient? Will you use some powder to cover in some points to make the look of acient dry skin?How will you fix it?
Main problem I found is some brightness due to fixative or acrilic paints.Any idea?
Thanks in advance!
This was my first attempt:

Jayn · 07-17-2011, 07:05 PM

Cool idea!
Maybe flat model/hobby/railroad paints? those are the most matte finish colors that I know of. The best I've used have been solvent-based, but I don't know how that would react with sculpy though.

rollerboi · 07-17-2011, 09:41 PM

Hm, the wings look a little.. solid. Try taking some garlic skin and playing with it, you might like the translucent and fragile look better.

SupermanCantFly · 07-18-2011, 02:13 AM

So that's what happened to Tinkerbell.

dropshipbob · 07-18-2011, 08:40 AM

I've seen people use tissue paper covered with school glue to make dried skin. Just apply it to the sirface of your object. move it around here and there and wrinkes will appear in the tissue. When it dries, the glue will keep all of the wrinkles in place. Also, you can try using liquid latex. Apply a thin coat to your surface and when it dries, lightly rub your finger across it. It will gather together in random places along with rips and tears, which should look something like old, dried skin.

I'd suggest practicing these techniques on something before you try it on your main object.

Howlrunner · 07-18-2011, 09:30 AM

Agreed.

As for paint, I'd use enamels or acrylics. Paint your base coat on first, then dry-brush on different shades to highlight.

cristobal · 07-18-2011, 10:23 AM

Thanks for tips.
This was the first one.
Today I started to paint another one.
What I did this time is no to prime all surface as I did in the one posted here.It makes to loose base flesh colour and tonal variations that tissue glued makes to the surface.
I used washes of brown inks and some dry brush in zones. The result is better . It really looks like leather ... I want to finish it and I will post it here.
For sure best technic is tissue paper ... something really easy but needed to be said.
Thanks!

Interceptor6 · 07-18-2011, 10:52 AM

Tinker - fell!
Those are cool, reminds me of the tooth fairies in Hellboy.

Kerr Avon · 07-18-2011, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupermanCantFly

So that's what happened to Tinkerbell.

It's my fault. I refused to clap.

cristobal · 07-19-2011, 08:07 AM

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Ok , here it is the result using tissue and glue. I combined layers of tissue and wallnut crystal solution ... This works very well. I think the main problem on previous one was the priming paint used before painting. It makes impossible to get the variations of ink washes runing through tissue givin a natural texture.
Thanks for help!
Now I am working in the body and wings to complete it.

dropshipbob · 07-19-2011, 08:46 AM

Hey, that looks great!

cristobal · 07-26-2011, 05:32 PM

At least I finished body. Only wings left.
I am very happy with texture result , I show it to some friends and everyone said it was creepy and feel the need of cleaning hands after touching it ... so I guess it is a good signal ...XP
Thanks again for tips and help !!!

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jme3 · 07-26-2011, 05:46 PM

It looks just like a real mummy, only smaller!

jaakub · 07-26-2011, 07:21 PM

Hey
That looks awesome. The mouth area on that looks fantastic. How did you do the teeth area on it? Looks great. Keep up the great work on it.
Jim

Aphius · 07-27-2011, 12:38 AM

Reminds me of those ice mummies you occasionally see, looks great!

OdiWan72 · 07-27-2011, 04:21 AM

VERY cool and that glass display gives it a classy look´n´feel.
I´d dirty up the teeth a bit, but otherwise call it DONE after adding the wings

Markus

cristobal · 07-27-2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaakub

Hey
That looks awesome. The mouth area on that looks fantastic. How did you do the teeth area on it? Looks great. Keep up the great work on it.
Jim

I guess you are asking for teeth material . It is translucent sculpey.

@OdiWan72 : I am thinking about aging teeth a bit , but I am no sure yet.Maybe a little yellowish will improve the result but once it is done it is very difficult to get them white back.

Thanks for viewing and posting!

PotionMistress · 07-27-2011, 01:40 PM

This looks fantastic!

One tip for extra effect if you're interested is you could try daubing small, wispy hairs in glue and adding very minuscule amounts around the head, as if there is some scalp left. Natural wool roving works great; it comes in all colors, its cheap and can easily be found on eBay or weaving sites. It's easy to work with also. Once glue is dried, you can gently thin by pulling bits out if you want less there.

cristobal · 07-27-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotionMistress

This looks fantastic!

One tip for extra effect if you're interested is you could try daubing small, wispy hairs in glue and adding very minuscule amounts around the head, as if there is some scalp left. Natural wool roving works great; it comes in all colors, its cheap and can easily be found on eBay or weaving sites. It's easy to work with also. Once glue is dried, you can gently thin by pulling bits out if you want less there.

I have done some other sculpts with hair using wool very fine.They look very natural once attached .I´ll try in the next corpse ( this one is going to be bald ) .Now I am thinking about wings, how to do it and make it like a continuation of the body but with transparency or translucent in some places.Guess plastic bag with armature wire and textured with tissue in points will work...

Psycho Sideshow · 07-27-2011, 03:02 PM

I've used a thin coat of rubber cement before on similar projects. Mostly after the paint job because it drys clear and peels off in little bits to create loose skin effects.

Dutchman · 07-27-2011, 03:43 PM

This looks great! Congrats with the results so far

Master Boda · 07-27-2011, 05:11 PM

Job well done man those look very life like.It's cool to see something different,thank's for the pictures of a cool item.

PotionMistress · 07-28-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cristobal

I have done some other sculpts with hair using wool very fine.They look very natural once attached .I´ll try in the next corpse ( this one is going to be bald ) .Now I am thinking about wings, how to do it and make it like a continuation of the body but with transparency or translucent in some places.Guess plastic bag with armature wire and textured with tissue in points will work...

Liquid Sculpey or Liquid FIMO translucent decorating gel over fine-wire framework is one way to go. It takes some trial and error to get a feel for it though. Many wings are available on eBay though

cristobal · 07-28-2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotionMistress

Liquid Sculpey or Liquid FIMO translucent decorating gel over fine-wire framework is one way to go. It takes some trial and error to get a feel for it though. Many wings are available on eBay though

I´ll try to find this liquid sculpey... it sounds interesting! Thanks for advice...but regarding ebay wings...mmm...I guess this will be barbie-fairy-like ones...XDD and don´t suit with this creepy guy.

PotionMistress · 07-29-2011, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cristobal

I´ll try to find this liquid sculpey... it sounds interesting! Thanks for advice...but regarding ebay wings...mmm...I guess this will be barbie-fairy-like ones...XDD and don´t suit with this creepy guy.

I know what you're probably thinking, cause I felt the same way at first; airy-fairy crap. And yes, 99% of it is, but you can glean some excellent info from some amazingly skilled artists. If you search under (I know, perish the thought) Dolls- Art Dolls OOAK- Fantasy, and then type in wings, you might find some good info, and even some books. Cicada-type wings might be perfect for your little dead guy.

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07-17-2011, 06:20 PM	#1
cristobal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 87	Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Hello , I am from Spain , an afficionate propmaker. I need some help from specialists to make a realistic deceased skin texture as mummies. I am planning to make a fairy mummy , and I have finished main sculpt.I´ve used supersculpey with armature wire.I am now covering it with thin layers of tissue to make wrinkles and add surface texture. Question is : what will you use to paint it ? An acrilic paint should be sufficient? Will you use some powder to cover in some points to make the look of acient dry skin?How will you fix it? Main problem I found is some brightness due to fixative or acrilic paints.Any idea? Thanks in advance! This was my first attempt:

07-17-2011, 07:05 PM	#2
Jayn Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Atlanta,Georgia Posts: 1,271	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Cool idea! Maybe flat model/hobby/railroad paints? those are the most matte finish colors that I know of. The best I've used have been solvent-based, but I don't know how that would react with sculpy though.

07-17-2011, 09:41 PM	#3
rollerboi aka Josh K. Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,751	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Hm, the wings look a little.. solid. Try taking some garlic skin and playing with it, you might like the translucent and fragile look better.

07-18-2011, 02:13 AM	#4
SupermanCantFly Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 62	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses So that's what happened to Tinkerbell.

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07-18-2011, 08:40 AM	#5
dropshipbob Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 4,442	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses I've seen people use tissue paper covered with school glue to make dried skin. Just apply it to the sirface of your object. move it around here and there and wrinkes will appear in the tissue. When it dries, the glue will keep all of the wrinkles in place. Also, you can try using liquid latex. Apply a thin coat to your surface and when it dries, lightly rub your finger across it. It will gather together in random places along with rips and tears, which should look something like old, dried skin. I'd suggest practicing these techniques on something before you try it on your main object.

07-18-2011, 09:30 AM	#6
Howlrunner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,400	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Agreed. As for paint, I'd use enamels or acrylics. Paint your base coat on first, then dry-brush on different shades to highlight.

07-18-2011, 10:23 AM	#7
cristobal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 87	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Thanks for tips. This was the first one. Today I started to paint another one. What I did this time is no to prime all surface as I did in the one posted here.It makes to loose base flesh colour and tonal variations that tissue glued makes to the surface. I used washes of brown inks and some dry brush in zones. The result is better . It really looks like leather ... I want to finish it and I will post it here. For sure best technic is tissue paper ... something really easy but needed to be said. Thanks!

07-18-2011, 10:52 AM	#8
Interceptor6 I shall avenge you. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunny Sarasota Posts: 608	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Tinker - fell! Those are cool, reminds me of the tooth fairies in Hellboy.

07-19-2011, 08:07 AM	#10
cristobal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 87	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Ok , here it is the result using tissue and glue. I combined layers of tissue and wallnut crystal solution ... This works very well. I think the main problem on previous one was the priming paint used before painting. It makes impossible to get the variations of ink washes runing through tissue givin a natural texture. Thanks for help! Now I am working in the body and wings to complete it.

07-19-2011, 08:46 AM	#11
dropshipbob Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 4,442	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Hey, that looks great!

07-26-2011, 05:32 PM	#12
cristobal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 87	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses At least I finished body. Only wings left. I am very happy with texture result , I show it to some friends and everyone said it was creepy and feel the need of cleaning hands after touching it ... so I guess it is a good signal ...XP Thanks again for tips and help !!! Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us

07-26-2011, 05:46 PM	#13
jme3 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,530	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses It looks just like a real mummy, only smaller!

07-26-2011, 07:21 PM	#14
jaakub Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 104	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Hey That looks awesome. The mouth area on that looks fantastic. How did you do the teeth area on it? Looks great. Keep up the great work on it. Jim

07-27-2011, 12:38 AM	#15
Aphius Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 87	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Reminds me of those ice mummies you occasionally see, looks great!

07-27-2011, 04:21 AM	#16
OdiWan72 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 4,803	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses VERY cool and that glass display gives it a classy look´n´feel. I´d dirty up the teeth a bit, but otherwise call it DONE after adding the wings Markus

07-27-2011, 01:40 PM	#18
PotionMistress Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 258	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses This looks fantastic! One tip for extra effect if you're interested is you could try daubing small, wispy hairs in glue and adding very minuscule amounts around the head, as if there is some scalp left. Natural wool roving works great; it comes in all colors, its cheap and can easily be found on eBay or weaving sites. It's easy to work with also. Once glue is dried, you can gently thin by pulling bits out if you want less there.

07-27-2011, 03:02 PM	#20
Psycho Sideshow Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 15	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses I've used a thin coat of rubber cement before on similar projects. Mostly after the paint job because it drys clear and peels off in little bits to create loose skin effects.

07-27-2011, 03:43 PM	#21
Dutchman Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 278	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses This looks great! Congrats with the results so far

07-27-2011, 05:11 PM	#22
Master Boda Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 158	Re: Deceased flesh and mummified corpses Job well done man those look very life like.It's cool to see something different,thank's for the pictures of a cool item.

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