The Amazing Spiderman Zentai build

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and to the world of Spider-man suit building!! I've just watched The Amazing Spiderman 2 in cinema and I decided I needed a suit, but I don't like the TASM2 one, I prefer the TASM1 suit much better. So I bought this suit off of zentai-zentai.com (although it turns out the file was taken from here on RPF by Zentai Zentai and re-uploaded into a zentai suit as their own design) and I was wondering how I go about puff painting on the suit? It's going to be very difficult to do in between the fingers etc. It looks very simple to puff paint when it's dye sub'd spandex sheets as it's all flat. But I'm worried about how to do all the fiddly bits. If anyone has some advice I'd love to hear it.

Also I'm wondering about the chest/back spiders. On other builds, of TASM2 suits (and the older Spiderman builds) people have said they puff paint the outline and then fill the middle with liquid latex. But the TASM1 spiders are divided into several tiny thin pieces that you couldn't possibly puff paint around AND fill because the puff paint would be enough! I just don't want it to look lumpy and uneven and rubbish like I'm worried it will.

And finally, a stupid question... what is the difference between puffy paint and slick paint? I bought some 3D Tulip Fabric Paint that you just squeeze on (obvs I bought some much finer applicator bottles and tips too, as the standard nozzle is about as precise as threading a needle with your fists) and I bought Navy Blue and Deep Red slick paint (as I saw someone recommended for the honeycomb pattern). But I don't know the difference between puff and slick. Do I need to know? Did I buy the wrong ones oh God I won't be happy

Thanks so much to anyone who helps I'll post pictures as I go. As of now, the suit hasn't even arrived but it's ordered and paid for and should be here soon (I hope!) so I'll take lots of photos for you guys then.

Here is the suit as it will be arriving (note that this is a stock image, I'm several sizes smaller than that!! )
I also bought the EVA lenses with the suit, so they come presumably attached.

I know it's been stolen from a member here but I didn't know that when I bought it. And as I live in UK and it's coming from US, it's cost a LOT of postage and will cost even more to return it, so I will be proceeding as normal with this Zentai suit. I won't be shopping there again on principal though.

Hi, I not recent on the site too, and I have do one mistake, I have buy from zentai zentai this suit, and the pattern was stolen from a RPf member, so if you want the site love, I advice you to take pattern file ( you can see in the junkyard ) and print by fabric on demand.
For puffy paint, slick is one of type of puffy paint, so you can use the tulip puffy paint.
I have made my chest and back spider with the puffy paint.
You can see my post on the amazing spiderman suit by Jeck13500 I have post all you need to know, but listen my advice to take zentai zentai pattern...

Just pay the original creator of the file for it. :thumbsup

Jeck13500 said:

Hi, I not recent on the site too, and I have do one mistake, I have buy from zentai zentai this suit, and the pattern was stolen from a RPf member, so if you want the site love, I advice you to take pattern file ( you can see in the junkyard ) and print by fabric on demand.
For puffy paint, slick is one of type of puffy paint, so you can use the tulip puffy paint.
I have made my chest and back spider with the puffy paint.
You can see my post on the amazing spiderman suit by Jeck13500 I have post all you need to know, but listen my advice to take zentai zentai pattern...

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Wow I didn't even know that, that's so awful!! OMG I had no idea. I've ordered it now, what should I do? I don't want people to judge me for this cos I only bought it, I didn't steal it myself!!
Who was the original design by and I can give them some money?

TheDodgeMan said:

Just pay the original creator of the file for it. :thumbsup

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Ok show-off, that's not really a helpful comment. You didn't answer anything I asked, you were just making a point, presumably that I STOLE this design (see above) when it's not even my fault.

*EDIT* disregard the ID in quotes below, that's for a different suit pattern.
I misread the first post.

The Amazing Spider-Man(1) suit pattern on their site was designed by forum member MCL34N.

He has not made his contact info widely available and rarely comes on the site any more.
View Profile: MCL34N - the RPF

You can see the thread where he developed the pattern here:
http://www.therpf.com/f24/mcl34ns-am...m-29-a-140975/

ZachariahD said:

Wow I didn't even know that, that's so awful!! OMG I had no idea. I've ordered it now, what should I do? I don't want people to judge me for this cos I only bought it, I didn't steal it myself!!
Who was the original design by and I can give them some money?


Ok show-off, that's not really a helpful comment. You didn't answer anything I asked, you were just making a point, presumably that I STOLE this design (see above) when it's not even my fault.

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The original design was by forum member Orhadar. You can buy through his website, gunheaddesign.com or his order thread below, which has his paypal ID for sending him money:
http://www.therpf.com/f84/orhadars-...ior-spider-man-batman-beyond-patterns-175453/

Here's the thread where he showed some progress designing the pattern that's been so widely stolen.
http://www.therpf.com/f78/amazing-spider-man-2-pattern-180430/

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Lunaman said:

The original design was by forum member Orhadar. You can buy through his website, gunheaddesign.com or his order thread below, which has his paypal ID for sending him money:
http://www.therpf.com/f84/orhadars-...ior-spider-man-batman-beyond-patterns-175453/

Here's the thread where he showed some progress designing the pattern that's been so widely stolen.
http://www.therpf.com/f78/amazing-spider-man-2-pattern-180430/

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Ohadar doesnt have ams1 pattern so i think zentai zentai not stolen from him

I have a "newbie" question. When someone makes a pattern file of some character and sells it are they required to pay some type of royalty to the originator? I know in music you pay royalties for using songs and can be sued for taking bits of it. So how in cosplay can i get away for let's say selling a Luke skywalker cape pattern and George Lucas not receiving something.

So I ordered same suit that you dod.
The site moght have stolen it but you were not aware it was stolen. But in the end even if you know who cares. We are all spidrrman fans and all trying to do a suit the best we can

Spidey20

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dungparker said:

Ohadar doesnt have ams1 pattern so i think zentai zentai not stolen from him

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Whoops, I misread the first post.
The Amazing Spider-Man one suit pattern on their site is also stolen, but not from Orhadar. That pattern was designed by forum member MCL34N.

He has not made his contact info widely available and rarely comes on the site any more.
View Profile: MCL34N - the RPF

You can see the thread where he developed the pattern here:
http://www.therpf.com/f24/mcl34ns-amazing-spidey-1-year-later-new-pics-bottom-29-a-140975/

How did they get their hand on McLean pattern??

There was a guy I think the got it somehow and made a toutube account and gave it away

Spidey20

spidey20 said:

So I ordered same suit that you dod.
The site moght have stolen it but you were not aware it was stolen. But in the end even if you know who cares. We are all spidrrman fans and all trying to do a suit the best we can

Spidey20

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yeah you're very right, I had no idea and I think it's unfair to shoot the messenger!!! But on the other hand, yeah we all want a Soidey outfit but if people know it's a fraudulent suit that was stolen, it's wrong to use I think.

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wow that's pretty cool! Where did you get those lenses? Did you order them as extras with the suit from zentai zentai?

ZachariahD said:

Wow I didn't even know that, that's so awful!! OMG I had no idea. I've ordered it now, what should I do? I don't want people to judge me for this cos I only bought it, I didn't steal it myself!!
Who was the original design by and I can give them some money?


Ok show-off, that's not really a helpful comment. You didn't answer anything I asked, you were just making a point, presumably that I STOLE this design (see above) when it's not even my fault.

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Woah! Calm down!

Pretty sure those are tjack frames. But he does not sell to people with zentai suits because they are stolen files from people here on the RPF.

TheDodgeMan said:

Pretty sure those are tjack frames. But he does not sell to people with zentai suits because they are stolen files from people here on the RPF.

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What, all of them? Every last Zentai suit is stolen from RPF? Tbh I find that a little hard to believe...

ZachariahD said:

What, all of them? Every last Zentai suit is stolen from RPF? Tbh I find that a little hard to believe...

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The "3D shades" zentai suits from zentai-zentai are pretty much all stolen from members here. The standard chinese cartoony zentai suits are not stolen.

Ouch I had no idea. Why don't people contact the police?

also can someone please help with head shells, I mentioned one before but tbh I have no idea why I need one.

ZachariahD said:

Ouch I had no idea. Why don't people contact the police?

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Several reasons, one of the more pressing being that pattern designers don't have very much of the law supporting them and their work, since even though their art and their work is their own, they are doing their art using copyrighted characters. Technically, Sony could shut down anyone making Spidey suits, artisans here included. So while it is true that Zentai can't legally steal and sell the work of these artists without their permission, the legal channels that would respond to that issue would also draw attention to the (somewhat silly but totally enforceable) copyright violation of the artists themselves, who don't have permission to profit from the character either. Generally, the studios and the members here both understand the grey area when hardworking people show their love for a property by building the kind of accurate products and costumes that the studios or rights holders aren't selling to people, and take it as acceptable in that it fosters good will and word of mouth advertising for the brand among the fans, while condemning the practice and attitudes of re-casters and those who steal the work of other members and pass it off as their own. But that good will and understanding does not count for much if these situations are brought to the attention of law enforcement.

ZachariahD said:

also can someone please help with head shells, I mentioned one before but tbh I have no idea why I need one.

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The shell makes your face shaped properly for the mask to lie smoothly--without one it will usually cling to your lips and droop under the nose. It also keeps the fabric away from your mouth so it collects less moisture, removes pressure off of your nose from the tension of the fabric, and allows a platform on which to attach magnetic lenses, which puts the fabric under less stress at the join and allows for swapping out of lenses or replacing/repairing them. Basically, all five movies have used faceshells because they are a multi-use platform that makes it easier to film the suits--They have consistent profiles for everyone, the performers can wear the masks for longer without nose mishaps, fogging on lenses can be easily attended to, and different lenses can be popped in and out for stunts or close-ups to allow more safety for the performers and better appearances for the camera.
Most hobbiests don't have those particular demands, but the number one reason to use one is that (unless you have really angular and prominent bone structure) your face will look pretty mushy when it's squeezed into a spandex mask. A shell makes it look like the classic comic book shape.

I bought my shells from masked rider here on RPF.
Decent price and very nice guy

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