I realize that. "One shot" wasn't the term I should have used to describe it. The Voyage Home had the luxary of having two movies after the "Save Earth" one and moved on to other areas immediately afterwards.
Star Trek Into Darkness (Pre-release)
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I realize that. "One shot" wasn't the term I should have used to describe it. The Voyage Home had the luxary of having two movies after the "Save Earth" one and moved on to other areas immediately afterwards.
Fair enough. Oddly enough one of the things that was really refreshing in STV was that they were actually going where no one has gone before again. When they approach and then pass through the barrier it really felt like Trek should. :thumbsup
Of course that doesn't excuse the majority of the rest of the film. :lol
Of course that doesn't excuse the majority of the rest of the film. :lol
DARTH SABER
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Correct :thumbsup
DARTH SABER
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wait, does earth need saving in this movie?
SSgt Burton
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DARTH SABER
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And yet, your very response is giving the original a free pass.
Apparently when the original series used these elements it was OK...but as soon as Abrams uses them, suddenly Trek "grew out of it". :lol
Your first excuse was that it was OK for the Voayage Home to use the "save earth" theme because it was a "once shot deal" (
lol:lol ), then someone pointed out that TMP and a few TNG films also used the "save earth" theme , and now all of a sudden your excuse is no longer a "one shot deal", but rather that those installments were OK because the original series was in a process of "growing out" of it. LOLI cant tell you how funny it is watching you blatantly back peddle and come up with new excuses.
lolYour first excuse was that it was OK for the Voayage Home to use the "save earth" theme because it was a "once shot deal" (
Saber, I acknowledged that calling The Voyage Home as a "one shot deal" was a mistake since I know darn well that the Earth was in danger by another probe entity in TMP. If you don't like my arguments, why not actually come up with a counter argument discussing why you would like to have Earth play a more important role in Star Trek, or something that doesn't sound like you're just trying to be a jerk for the sake of it. I'm not here for the LOLs or to bash anyone here just for having an opinion.
EDIT: Oh, one other thing. When I said "Star Trek grew out of over the years", I wasn't talking about TOS or it's movies. I was talking about the entire franchise.
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Personally I'd prefer it to say "The Federation will fall".
Angelus Lupus
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The poster (and the film overall) really don't look/feel like Star Trek
Well I haven't seen the film and am avoiding most trailers so I can't comment on that but I agree about the posters. Less Earth and more planet please!
I believe it's "Starfleet" that's in trouble. The United Federation of Planets is made up of numerous worlds including Earth. If the Federation was at stake, John Harrison would be going after every planet like Nero threatened to do in the last movie. Since Starfleet is based on Earth, Earth is the target and thus the focus of attention.
NakedMoleRat
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In which case "Starfleet will fall" works for me.
But if you take out earth, you get Starfleet too.
It's a two-fer!
Who ever makes these posters must rush them together.
The smoke for each building is the same one, just copied over and scaled differently.
They couldn't even create unique smoke clouds for each one?
I agree that these trek films don't feel like trek at all.
The smoke for each building is the same one, just copied over and scaled differently.
They couldn't even create unique smoke clouds for each one?
I agree that these trek films don't feel like trek at all.
And that would actually make Star Trek interesting again. If we don't have that overrated blue planet to come back to, Star Trek might actually be about something that takes place....
IN SPACE!
DARTH SABER
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I would assume.... yes.
So "earth" is a city?
Paul Andrew
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I doubt that space travel will go unmentioned in this movie. I find it kind of interesting that so much of these movies seem to center around earth though. I never watched TOS (the cheese is a bit thick for me) but I've watched all of TNG and quite a lot of DS9, and all the movies released so far, and if they've been lacking anything it's been a vision of what the future of earth itself is. We've had many movies and episodes worth of our future in space on strange alien worlds, I'm OK with a little extra time spent on our own home turf.
Wouldn't that be called Battlestar Galactica?
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