Prometheus (Post-release)

Maybe he did know his cargo, he was just trying to get it to its destination before he bought the farm. maybe I am mistaken, but wasn't the premise that the Engineer's decided they should wipe out mankind around 2000 years ago, but whatever accident occured at that time stopped them, and the surving few went into stasis.

maybe they were preparing the eggs and readying the ship that came to crash land on LV-426 when that accident happened. On of the infected Engineers decided to try to complete the mission anyway and didn't make it as far as he hoped.

How Prometheus Should Have Ended - YouTube

That would have been funny if all this hadn't been discussed to death already.

Clutch said:

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That would have been funny if all this hadn't been discussed to death already.

It's not dead if the movie will still be around. I have a feeling it will be. Poor Charles. He says this release will be his most proudest work.

Yeah, Ive heard him say that too.

CB2001 said:

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I don't know if that still applies or is applicable, I just found out about it and thought it was an interesting detail that was let out long before Scott decided to do Prometheus. Has anyone else head this before?

I have, and no where in the commentary or documentaries does anyone say that the Space Jockeyw as a suit. I will not let that one go.

Also, there were some folks who wanted to go to the Space Jockey homeworld. In the Alien3 "Wreckage and Rage" documentary, Renny Harlin was approached and he wanted to go to the Alien home world. But the producers wanted none of that so they went with another alien movie with Ripley being the lone survivor of the previous movie again.

It's like 20th Century Fox did not want the alien franchise to do anything but focus solely on the xenomorphs in every possible way. It wasn't until the franchise was pretty much dead that they decided to finally do what Ridley Scott wanted to do.

Problem? Hire this writer to write the story.

Jon Spaihts, writer of The Darkest Hour..... A movie that is not only his sole credit at the time, but was also one of the most heavily panned films of the year. And in a move that surprised no one, the script wasn't that good, and Damon Lindelof was brought in to fix things and un-prequelize it. Again, the man who is carrying out a morbid love affair with JJ Abrams' mystery box was the guy they hired to rework the script. I'm very certain that his rewrites of World War Z will be hailed as a monumental achievement in script doctoring.




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If I had to harbor a guess on the LV426 ship.

I would say that the chestbuster that popped out of the Jockey
was a queen and she had laid all of those eggs after the crash. She
just kept pumping them out for how ever many years she was down
there.

If she didn't die during that time, she made her way over to the colony
once all of there crew and family started getting face pumped. The face
hugger that Newts family brought back there (already attached) had birthed
the first alien which had somehow gotten the queen to come over or it was
a new queen entirely.

As for Prometheus, I was really excited to see this until i did. Was very
let down by the whole thing. just a poor concept from beginning to end.

knightdriver2001 said:

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If I had to harbor a guess on the LV426 ship.

Here's my take. The derelict ship didn't crash. It actually landed on what I can assume was a holding area for the eggs. I just don't think that egg chamber is a part of the ship given the sheer size and how it's apparently under the ship. The reason the ship looks out the way it does and why you can't see the holding area was due to centuries of molten activity.

Whether the ship was loading or unloading the eggs, something happened to cause one of the eggs to be disturbed and unleash one of the face huggers. While the Space Jockey (NOT ENGINEER) tried to send out a warning to what happened, the face hogger got to him just in time for him not to finish the signal. Once it awoke, it's memory of the incident was wiped clean (as it happened to Kane) and before he could figure out why he was on the planet, boom.

Now, why the acid hole in the ground? I have some theories, but they're pretty far fetched. One theory I have is that the face hugger was able to excrete acid (Kane's melted instead of cracked helmet) and managed to get through the holding area into the Jockey's cabin. How? Well, there are some areas of the cargo hold where liquid drips upwards. :O

Jon Spaihts, writer of The Darkest Hour..... A movie that is not only his sole credit at the time, but was also one of the most heavily panned films of the year. And in a move that surprised no one, the script wasn't that good, and Damon Lindelof was brought in to fix things and un-prequelize it

Actually, Spaihts was a script doctor on Darkest Hour. He rewrote Leslie Bonham's script, which was then rewritten again by director Chris Gorak.

Spaihts Alien prequel script was commissioned by Scott because Spaihts was seen as the 'go-to' guy for sci-fi thrillers due to a couple of unproduced scripts that were considered hot at that time.

Spaihts script was in place for a considerable period of pre-production, until Scott decided to run with the 'chariots of the gods' angle rather than a straight up prequel.

We don't know why Lindelof was brought in to re-write, but it's not inconceivable that it has to do with style rather than quality. The buzz has it that the original script was pretty good.

Neville Page on Prometheus Engineer

alienscollection.com said:

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Neville Page on Prometheus Engineer

Very nice, the King lives in Engineer form. Also the best conformation yet that SRS is making another Blade Runner. woowhooo.
Is it too early to start a "Why i hate the new Blade Runner" thread? Just want to keep em all in the one spot and not continually annoy the people who do like it.

'Prometheus' Screenwriter Damon Lindelof Tweets All - Speakeasy - WSJ

alienscollection.com said:

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'Prometheus' Screenwriter Damon Lindelof Tweets All - Speakeasy - WSJ

It's nice when the "Script Doctor" is the go to person to talk about the film.

What do you get from writing down Prometheus? Did you actually read the interview at all before giving your comment?

NAZGÛL said:

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What do you get from writing down Prometheus? Did you actually read the interview at all before giving your comment?

Yep. Sounds like he was more interested in talking about viral marketing than material that was actually in the movie. I mean, what are you expecting to get out of a writer who deliberately doesn't write coherent stories?

Lindelof: "I am driven and captivated and interested in these open-ended stories that have a high level of interpretation to them."

So was I to an extent Damon. But you took my favorite, open-ended element from the original movies and told us they're nothing more than Handsome Squidwards in suits. What you leave us with is just a bunch of stupid idiots wandering around in an alien environment who take their protective helmets off because they think they're an "inconvenience".

I don't think you're taking into consideration how difficult it is for writers to work with Ridley Scott. He can be an unrelenting *******. When, as a writer working with him, you are a secondary contributor and any idea he takes to is given precedent ... you'd get kinda frustrated, despite the "honor" of working with him.

Jeyl said:

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So was I to an extent Damon. But you took my favorite, open-ended element from the original movies and told us they're nothing more than Handsome Squidwards in suits. What you leave us with is just a bunch of stupid idiots wandering around in an alien environment who take their protective helmets off because they think they're an "inconvenience".

You're making the incredible (and baseless) assumption that those things you mention are Lindelhof's ideas. I'm pretty sure they're actually Ridley Scott's. In fact, I'd be very surprised to find anything in the script that wasn't originally Scott's idea.

You people are assuming that Ridley Scott is too stupid to read, and will simply shoot whatever he's given without consideration or a second thought. So you point your finger at the guy that, in all reality, Ridley just looked at and said "Here, write this down..."

Jedi2016 said:

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You people are assuming that Ridley Scott is too stupid to read

Well, for a man who got lost on his own studio tour, than I would say.....YES! Ridley Scott can't read.

nickytea said:

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I don't think you're taking into consideration how difficult it is for writers to work with Ridley Scott. He can be an unrelenting *******. When, as a writer working with him, you are a secondary contributor and any idea he takes to is given precedent ... you'd get kinda frustrated, despite the "honor" of working with him.

Well, one can always say it was a bad writer assigned to an unrelenting ********. At least if there was a good writer, we would have seen evidence of a good story in Prometheus.

When folks finally get to read Jon Spaiht's original draft, they'll finally get to see how much of a straight up Alien prequel this was originally supposed to be - and how much of that DNA made it into Lindelof's rewrite.

Jeyl said:

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Well, one can always say it was a bad writer assigned to an unrelenting ********. At least if there was a good writer, we would have seen evidence of a good story in Prometheus.

I think it tells a tremendous story.
Sorry it doesn't work for you.

While I don't agree with this, some of you may want to give it a read:

Why ‘Prometheus’ gets it all wrong, and why it matters

alienscollection.com said:

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While I don't agree with this, some of you may want to give it a read:

Why ‘Prometheus’ gets it all wrong, and why it matters

I quit reading after paragraph 3. He gets his first "wrong" premise wrong himself by ignoring what is right there on screen in the first few minutes of the film. Another example of someone who did not like the film trying to invent reasons why it is wrong, to convince others not to like it.

The Engineers were not shown "dropped their DNA in the oceans of earth long ago and so created humans". The single Engineer drank the black crap, which ripped his DNA apart into its component pieces, building a new DNA strand. The pieces of the DNA strand are actually shown being covered and mutated by the black stuff, for those who were looking closely, just before montaging into the first cells dividing. The film makers are implying the black goo is the tool used to create the building blocks of life, using the material from existing life. Since that is an overriding theme about the black goo, right to the end of the film, one would have to intentionally ignore it to fit his premise.