Black Widow Gun Belt, Iron Man 2

Zendragon

I need some help identifying, making, etc...

This belt and the pouches. Also identifying buckles.

I can't tell if this is a found item or a custom job.

and while I am at it... does ANYONE have any ideas about that fraking fabric?

Thoughts and ideas? Thanks all!

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Odds are custom - but I have been wrong before... Idk... Might wanna ask Dave at UD... he is like an Ipod of knowledge with fabrics

izabel

cool. now i can update my BW. lol. Mine is the Bishoujo series.

I think the fabric is light denim??? might be spandex but in denim. not sure tho.

Do you have a shot for the holster at the legs?

tk1055

I am voting for neopream with a mesh overlay. At least thats what the costume card with the swatch of fabric looks like to me.

Riceball

I don't suppose there's a better shot of her belt in better lighting is there? I tried brightening it up in Photoshop to get a better look but it's not clean enough to make out texture details. Off hand I'm thinking that the belt along withe the pouches are a custom job made from rubber or a rubber like material and the buckle looks custom too. To double check I'd browse tactical and police gear site to see if anybody carries anything like it but all of the duty belts that I've seen are either made from (basket weaved) leather or some form of nylon and in either case you can clearly make out the texture.

Capn_Jack_Savvy

Kinda big!

Zendragon

Yea I was thinking custom too :-p Now to figure out how to make something like it.


The fabric looks somewhat thick, clearly 4way stretch, maybe a denim pattern.

I haven't seen too many shots of the holster yet. It's a tactical and looks to be made from Kydex or something


I bet that fabric is made special too. Got a bigger pic of that card? That would be useful


That's one of the best pics I have seen to date that shows most of the belt. It does look like a custom job and I haven't found anything in the police, military, diving or outdoor sites that looks the part.

tk1055

Best I can find.

coofunkcurly

Are those cards available yet?

coofunkcurly

That's sorta revealing. Doesn't look like neoprene anymore. I used to have some similar swatches to this material. Not similar enough though.

the_batdemon

there are auctions on the 'bay. without seeing the swatch in person, I'm thinking it's a variation of the material used for the TDK undersuit...an athletic mesh over a black base would give the look, but it won't behave the same. notice how it looks like a single layer of material. on another board, I suggested a pique fabric, stretch if possible. you'll find that texture, but i haven't seen a two tone. Black or navy would be my choice.

the buckle looks like a center release. probably 1.5"-2" this buckle isn't wide enough, but it's a start: http://www.ahh.biz/products/hardware...ahh.biz%29.htm

the holster looks to be a quick draw. don't know the brand...

*EDIT* okay, looking at some hi res shots, the gun belt is probably urethane. the profile looks like tried and true automobile molding. one shot I've seen, the buckle looks stuck on, it sits on top of the belt. the July 24 09 issue of entertainment weekly has a shot of the holster from the side/back.

coofunkcurly

Thanks David! First thing I thought of when I saw the closeup was TDK as well. Now if you guys don't bid against me I'll have something I can send to my textile contacts.

PadawanLearner

I think I found my new wallpaper
I was going to say denim too after looking at the big picture, but the close-up of the swatch would say it isn't. Probably would have to wait until someone gets the swatch in their hands.

Darth Mule

Doesn't look to me like a mesh overlay. I think the texture may be flocked. Batdemon may be onto something with the pique.

It does look thick though. Jumbo spandex perhaps? Or a very lightweight neoprene.

JP05

Holster looks like a SERPA made by Blackhawk. Just a thought...hard to tell from that angle.

leatherneck

I was going to say the same. The pouch to the left of the buckle looks like a Kydex handcuff pouch.

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Actually it does look like a .5mm open-cell neoprene with a nylon air-mesh or more specifically, a metallic chainmale (sp?) mesh... Could be a stretch denim or some kinda dense wool... either way it does have a mesh over laid it, being adhesive or licked in the seams... Don't really know...

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/29...sh_fabric.html

izabel

woot. sweet. will start working on the utility belt.

i'll still say denim. i think i have a bra with this material. hahaha!

wiliqueen

Just found this today, and right now it's the front-runner for me.



(For those who frequent the League of Heroes board, I have a WIP thread going over there, with some brainstorming similar to what's going on here.)

My suspicion about the eBay swatch card photos is the same as about the high-res screencaps where the suit appears to be blue: I think somebody punched the color saturation WAY up, and that's where the blue is coming from.

I'm about 95% decided to order this 'spacer' stuff and see how it works out. At $10/yd, and only needing a couple yards, I think it might e worth the plunge. I'll definitely report back if I get it!

Meanwhile, I was pointed to this thread as having the answer for the holster, so a big THANK YOU for that!

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Are you going to use that for the body suit??

wiliqueen

It's on the experimentation agenda; I'm planning to get a swatch and see what its actual properties are.

It seems to be similar to neoprene, but with the mesh pattern actually part of it, which is the ideal I've had in my head. The way the folds work, particularly in this shot, indicate something fairly thick.



If I get the stuff and it totally doesn't behave right, I'm only out a few bucks, and it's back to the light neoprene (or maybe stretch twill/denim, though I'm skeptical about that) and mesh combo.

My target date is Dragon*Con, so I have plenty of time for experimentation.

Darth Mule

I you look carefully at the swatch you will notice that the gridding is recessed, not overlain. This is why I suggest that it is flocked or woven in and not covered with a mesh. Also the fabric does not move like two layers together. This isn't to say that if you can replicate the look and feel with a mesh overlay, you shouldn't. Do what you can. But my several years of experience in textiles tells me that this is not that.

If it is light neoprene, it could have the grid etched into it, burning away the top layer of fabric.

CustomPropSculptorGuy

If you go to Stretch house and pull their "dual layered" neoprene apart, it will give you that EXACT same effect. And no, the material wont move as two layers on top of each other, it's prob. been thermo-fused in to the, for sake of argument, neoprene, you can do that and it will bond near perfectly...

But that's why I was saying it's prob. an open-cell neoprene because of the weave - it looks like it could have been a dual-layer just opened up. But the other thing, and it could be, but it could be a just a heavy weight custom weave with the mesh thermo bonded... I put a link up to a similar material a few posts ago - looks like 1/8th" or 1/16" porthole mesh

CustomPropSculptorGuy

Actually, in looking at that pic posted... it does look like a thin neoprene with the way the lines and seams sit, the movement in the fabric and then the depth of the material in other shots...

tk1055

YAY for once I was right about something!!!