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    Oct 13, 2010, 6:39 PM - Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #1

    If I had a Delorean this is the first place I'd go! I took these on a trip to MGM back in 1991. Sorry about the picture quality, I was only 10 and I promise you the camera I was using was worth less than the film in it. There was a museum set up totally separate from the backlot tour in what I think is now a restaurant.



    Notice the "comic" version of the rocket on the upper left as well as another concept version beneath it. In the lower middle is the rocket case that the vacuum was switched into in the hangar. I remeber that at least on of these packs was made of foam.



    2 of the puppets facing the other way are Lucky Lindy and Malcom. In the background you can see 2 of the Autogyros as well as the giant Spruce Goose. (and 2 pansies in rain ponchos)



    I know it's blurry but on the ground is the rig they attached to a helicopter to film the Gee Bee pilot scenes.



    It makes me sad seeing these two old friends knowing what would eventually happen to them.
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    Oct 13, 2010, 7:15 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #2

    Cool pics.. thanks for sharing them...
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    Oct 14, 2010, 9:49 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #3

    Hi, Jay! Welcome and nice pics! Thanks for sharing them! I've seen some other pics of that display room from when they were promoting the movie. It was stunning. Pretty much any significant item from the movie was there.

    They had a display case with 5 helmets in it including a couple of stunt helmets, a hero helmet and a prototype helmet that I have now. I'd like to take a trip in a time machine to visit that as well...

    I'm curious what happened to some of the stuff. I know the full size GeeBee mockup sat out in the weather rotting. If it even still exists now, it's probably in some trash heap.

    A lot of items were auctioned by Disney 10 years ago. I know a couple of the rocketpacks were sold and I know they've still got the full-size Lucky Lindy used in the movie along with a few other items visible in that MGM backlot tour. And of course, none of the stuff they kept was taken care of...
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    Oct 14, 2010, 10:19 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #4

    The "museum" you mention was in the brick building across from the Muppetvision 3D theater and is now Buzz Lightyear's Pizza Planet.

    I remember seeing two different displays in that building in the early 90's. The first was one of the first times I recall seeing original film props. There were items from Indiana Jones, Star Wars, ROTJ, Rocketeer and others... I only wish I had a digital camera back then!

    The second time I remember being less impressed (as there was a giant sneaker as you walked in, from Honey I Blew Up the Baby which had recently shot scenes at the studios) but no doubt there was some very cool stuff then too.

    I keep hoping someone went to these exhibits and photographed the heck out of them... if anyone's got pics, please post them up!

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    Oct 14, 2010, 11:49 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #5

    Evil Rocketeer probably has leads on those items. I really like the looks of that prototype.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 12:03 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #6

    Very cool pics, it's a shame most of this stuff has been kept the way it has. Still nice to see it the way it was.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 12:14 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #7

    dualedge said: View Post
    Hi, Jay! Welcome and nice pics! Thanks for sharing them! I've seen some other pics of that display room from when they were promoting the movie. It was stunning. Pretty much any significant item from the movie was there.

    They had a display case with 5 helmets in it including a couple of stunt helmets, a hero helmet and a prototype helmet that I have now. I'd like to take a trip in a time machine to visit that as well...

    I'm curious what happened to some of the stuff. I know the full size GeeBee mockup sat out in the weather rotting. If it even still exists now, it's probably in some trash heap.

    A lot of items were auctioned by Disney 10 years ago. I know a couple of the rocketpacks were sold and I know they've still got the full-size Lucky Lindy used in the movie along with a few other items visible in that MGM backlot tour. And of course, none of the stuff they kept was taken care of...
    No problem! I couldn't believe it when I was digging through a box and found these. I actually hope Disney sold most of this stuff at the auction because like you said, the stuff they held on to has been seriously neglected. Such as the full size Gee Bee and Autogyro seen below.


    IMG_0948 by Hidden Peanuts, on Flickr

    Luckliy, the Gee Bee used in the movie that could actually fly was sold or donated to a museum and can now be seen in Seattle at the Museum of Flight, still in perfect condition.
    Granville Brothers Gee Bee Z "City of Springfield" | The Museum of Flight
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    Oct 14, 2010, 12:18 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #8

    TomSpinaDesigns said: View Post
    The "museum" you mention was in the brick building across from the Muppetvision 3D theater and is now Buzz Lightyear's Pizza Planet.

    I remember seeing two different displays in that building in the early 90's. The first was one of the first times I recall seeing original film props. There were items from Indiana Jones, Star Wars, ROTJ, Rocketeer and others... I only wish I had a digital camera back then!

    The second time I remember being less impressed (as there was a giant sneaker as you walked in, from Honey I Blew Up the Baby which had recently shot scenes at the studios) but no doubt there was some very cool stuff then too.

    I keep hoping someone went to these exhibits and photographed the heck out of them... if anyone's got pics, please post them up!

    Tom
    I remeber the "Honey I blew up the Baby" stuff! Actually, if you look in the background of the pics you can see a giant set of suspenders that I think are from that movie.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 12:21 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #9

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    Evil Rocketeer probably has leads on those items. I really like the looks of that prototype.
    Just found this on Flickr


    Rocketeer 1 by Hydra5, on Flickr

    It looks like an evil version the bad guys would wear.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 3:58 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #10

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    Evil Rocketeer probably has leads on those items. I really like the looks of that prototype.
    I know for certain at least one of the prototype rocketpacks is in a particular private collection. I'd have to double check but I think they are both actually in the same collection. I've got what's left of the original prototype helmet which isn't seen in those pics (it's just the body of the helmet now - the fin and eye lenses are missing.)

    I believe the helmet seen in that one display case might be a particular stunt helmet that is in another private collection. At least one of those scale figures is in a private collection as well.

    Some of the items were auctioned but some items are unaccounted for as far as I'm aware so far. ER and I tend to stay in touch and I know of a few other private collectors that have some significant items, some of which are from those displays.

    I have no idea what happened to the scale autogyro, the Spruce Goose or the zeppelin unfortunately. Many of the smaller items probably got trashed in the warehouse where lots of stuff was stored for two decades. Nothing that went into the warehouse came back out in one piece judging by the pictures I've seen - including the prototype helmet, the two prototype rocketpacks I know of or, of course, the full size GeeBee mockup...

    I know of a couple of items apparently still on the backlot tour in the prop warehouse. That's where the full scale Lucky Lindy statue is (damaged of course) and a few other lesser items.

    I'll see if I can dig up a few tidbits to share regarding this...
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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:03 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #11

    JayPHX said: View Post
    Just found this on Flickr


    Rocketeer 1 by Hydra5, on Flickr

    It looks like an evil version the bad guys would wear.
    It's a beauty, isn't it? I think I'd be willing to sell a non-vital organ to get my hands on both of those prototype rocketpacks... I'll also dig up some photos of the prototype helmet again. I've posted them in the past but I think only the hardcore Rocketeer fans really even care so I don't post them often

    And lemme just say it's really nice to see some new Rocketeer threads again. Seems with the influx of new members we've been getting some decent threads going at least every few weeks
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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:23 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #12

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    And lemme just say it's really nice to see some new Rocketeer threads again. Seems with the influx of new members we've been getting some decent threads going at least every few weeks
    And let me just say it's nice to hear someone other than myself talk about the Rocketeer for once.

    I'd be interested in any pictures you've willing to share. I've been digging through the old posts but a lot of the links are now dead. I don't remeber every seeing a prototype helmet.
    Thanks!
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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:26 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #13

    JayPHX said: View Post
    Just found this on Flickr


    Rocketeer 1 by Hydra5, on Flickr

    It looks like an evil version the bad guys would wear.
    Obviously the Cirrus X-4 combat version.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:29 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #14

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:29 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #15

    I doubt the scale down autogyro still exist..I was able to get into contact with the person that made the scale geebee, autogyro, zepplin, etc etc...he didnt have them, and disney had them..most likely they ended up in the garbage or walked off set...I know there were several crew members that took momentos...It could be in some-one's garage or thrown out over the 20 years...And like dualedge said, disney had a big giant lawn sale and sold off a lot of rocketeer items through ebay etc etc...

    Also, some items could have possibly be used in other films and their origin was left unknown or undocumented properly.

    I know dualedge and I go gagaga for this stuff, so we keep in contact as much as we can (I been soo darn busy lately that I been lousy with it)

    I think disney still owns that particular helmet in the display. I believe it is the same helmet used at Peevys Lemonade stand....



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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:43 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #16

    JayPHX said: View Post
    And let me just say it's nice to hear someone other than myself talk about the Rocketeer for once.

    I'd be interested in any pictures you've willing to share. I've been digging through the old posts but a lot of the links are now dead. I don't remeber every seeing a prototype helmet.
    Thanks!
    Yeah, the prototype helmet is even less well known about even moreso than the prototype rocketpacks. It looks sort of like the Rocketeer's hillbilly cousin. I've been wanting to do a little restoration work on it but as with all of my "projects", I never seem to find the time to get anything done.

    I'll get some pics from my computer at home tonight and write up some info about it.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 4:50 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #17

    Wow! Thanks for the great pictures. Although it's a bummer to see the "lemonade stand" helmet has clearly been squashed and the helmet in the warehouse has the side torn off. Still, I count 6 rocket packs in these pictures alone - all things considered I'm surprised they still have so many.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 5:02 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #18

    I am surprised the rocketpack hold up pretty well at the lemonade stand..You figure that hott and humid weather got to the helmet pretty easy the past couple years, but the pack looks to be in good shape...

    I think the helmet in the wharehouse is a part of the ripaway helmets
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    Oct 14, 2010, 5:35 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #19

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    I doubt the scale down autogyro still exist..I was able to get into contact with the person that made the scale geebee, autogyro, zepplin, etc etc...he didnt have them, and disney had them..most likely they ended up in the garbage or walked off set...I know there were several crew members that took momentos...It could be in some-one's garage or thrown out over the 20 years...And like dualedge said, disney had a big giant lawn sale and sold off a lot of rocketeer items through ebay etc etc...

    Also, some items could have possibly be used in other films and their origin was left unknown or undocumented properly.

    I know dualedge and I go gagaga for this stuff, so we keep in contact as much as we can (I been soo darn busy lately that I been lousy with it)

    I think disney still owns that particular helmet in the display. I believe it is the same helmet used at Peevys Lemonade stand....




    Man, just looking at those pics makes me feel like I'm right back there again. I guess the sad thing is that the last time I was there (last december) I recall I was tall enough and easily capable of grabbing some of the rocketeer gear, after a brief climb of course
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    Oct 14, 2010, 8:05 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #20

    I can't get over how cool this thing looks. Somebody must do a sculpt of it.
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    Oct 14, 2010, 9:41 PM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #21



    This is the original prototype helmet. It was created by a fellow at the prop shop that built the final helmets. When it was presented, as I understand it, Dave and/or whoever else weren't happy with it. That's when Dave went to his friend and Disney sculptor Kent Melton who sculpted the shape of the hero helmet as we know it today. This is strictly a one-of-a-kind piece. To my knowledge, no other prototypes or copies of the prototype were made. That's likely the case with the prototype rocketpacks as well. This helmet and the bullet shaped prototype were the first two items made I believe so I'd love to get my hands on that particular rocketpack.

    This was one of the helmets on display in the same Disney/MGM 'museum' when they were promoting the film. After that, it was stuck on a shelf in Disney's warehouse for about 15 years where it was under the not-so-tender mercies of their care. I think they're concept of taking care of something is simply not whacking it with a baseball bat every day. When I got it, the eye lenses and fin were gone and there was the crack along the bridge between the eyes.

    Eventually I'm hoping to replace the eye lenses... assuming I can figure out how to shape the eye lenses so that they fit flush like it was originally. I'm hoping to eyeball the shape of the fin... it's just a huge flat boat rudder shape so it shouldn't be too hard, relatively speaking.

    I'll post more in a bit...
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    Oct 15, 2010, 1:03 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #22

    Fantastic photos!
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    Oct 15, 2010, 2:50 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #23

    Rob, I totally love that Prototype helmet..Makes me wanna come over and steal it haha

    Kinda looks like a prepakura helmet haha jk..I am sure one day it will get mistaken for one
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    Oct 15, 2010, 8:45 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #24

    I don't mean to stray too off of the Rocketeer topic of this thread, but since Tom mentioned hoping to see some other pics of this exhibit, here's one pic I took as a kid in June of 1993. At that time they were heavily promoting Super Mario Bros. but still had items from Honey I Blew Up the Kid, What About Bob, and Star Wars. Don't recall seeing any of the Rocketeer items, except for what's on display in the Backlot Tour today.



    Here's the big sneaker Tom mentioned as it sits today:

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    Oct 15, 2010, 9:13 AM - Re: Rocketeer props from 1991 MGM studios #25

    EvilRocketeer said: View Post
    Rob, I totally love that Prototype helmet..Makes me wanna come over and steal it haha

    Kinda looks like a prepakura helmet haha jk..I am sure one day it will get mistaken for one
    It does kind of resemble the pepakura helmet now that you mention it! It's sort of like an ugly baby in a way... I know it's not beautiful but I love it anyway I just wish it had received better treatment in the warehouse. That last picture by the way is the prototype sitting next to the screen-used hero helmet I used to own. It'll give you some idea of the size of it. It's going to be huge if I ever get a replica fin added to it.

    I've got a few more things to post... just need to get it organized...

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