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    Jun 6, 2010, 2:22 PM - X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #1

    Here is a kit of X-Wing parts that I've had in storage for at least 15 years. The story behind them (at least the story I was told) was that so many X-Wing models were blown up while shooting Star Wars that years later enough parts were found embedded in the insulation on the stage (then part of John Dykstra's Apogee) to put together a complete model. Molds were pulled and additional castings made, of which this is a set. It may not be a true story, but it's kind of cool. Anyway, I traded a set of Flatbed parts from the Abyss for these. I figured it's probably about time I put it together! The castings are only so-so. A lot of bubbles and crap to clean off or rebuild. But considering how much weathering and battle damage these ships need, it should build up as a pretty nice model.

    Many of you know far more about the X-Wing than I ever could hope to so I'm hoping I can get some insight into some things I may need to rebuild from scratch, or scrounge from plastic kits. The first question I have would be the best source of reference photos of the original model. Thanks.

















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    Jun 6, 2010, 2:34 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #2

    Interesting. I'm seeing details in the inner wing that I've never seen before. Pretty cool!
  3. REL is offline REL
    Jun 6, 2010, 2:42 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #3

    That R2 is different, it has a smooth dome. They must've painted the details on instead of molding them in place.
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    Jun 6, 2010, 3:42 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #4

    Pretty!
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    Jun 6, 2010, 4:46 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #5

    Dave,
    if it's a casting from production, might be historically significant enough to make molds before locking this one up.

    Thanks for sharing pics!

    Mike
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    Jun 6, 2010, 5:11 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #6

    I'm with Darth myeek, i'm not sure i would build with those parts. You should mold them and build up one from the casts.

    Any chance we could get a few shots of the other (left) side of the fuselage and the bottom?
    I want to see all those patches.

    TIA
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    Jun 6, 2010, 5:28 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #7

    darth_myeek said: View Post
    Dave,
    if it's a casting from production, might be historically significant enough to make molds before locking this one up.

    Thanks for sharing pics!

    Mike
    Well, the first step would be cleaning up the castings anyway, at least trimming off the gunk and filling bubbles. I guess it would be kind of cool to model the whole fleet!

    I will take some better pictures of the fuselage and wings and post when I can.
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    Jun 6, 2010, 6:22 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #8

    Very interesting! The wings are definatly pyro wings, which you can see by certain styrene chips. I reckon all of the model is a pyro, im no expert.
    Now wouldnt it be cool to have a built pyro that wasnt blown to bits?
    Hmm, a red six comes to mind.
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    Jun 6, 2010, 6:32 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #9

    also, wasn't there an auction shot of a pukka ILM pyro in the same colour resin not so long ago?
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    Jun 6, 2010, 6:41 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #10

    DaveG said: View Post
    Well, the first step would be cleaning up the castings anyway, at least trimming off the gunk and filling bubbles. I guess it would be kind of cool to model the whole fleet!

    I will take some better pictures of the fuselage and wings and post when I can.
    I've read in previous threads that you are in the industry, and I don't mean to overstep any bounds, I just wanted to run a story by you. It's a parable in vague form, so bear with me. I spoke with a guy who had a casting from a screen used something who regretted cleaning up a casting prior to molding. The warts removed would have easily linked future castings to the originals.

    Ok, I swear I am done

    There are so many excellent threads here on the rpf. Julien's thread here is amazing.

    I'll let the x-wing pros chime in here. I am sure they'll be interested.
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    Jun 6, 2010, 7:07 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #11

    Pretty!
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    Jun 6, 2010, 7:08 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #12

    This will get real interesting real fast!
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    Jun 6, 2010, 7:17 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #13

    totally with you there.
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    Jun 6, 2010, 7:24 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #14

    Apophis said: View Post
    Very interesting! The wings are definatly pyro wings, which you can see by certain styrene chips. I reckon all of the model is a pyro, im no expert.
    just because I'm curious, but can you explain that a little bit more?
    How can you recognize it as a pyro model?
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    Jun 6, 2010, 8:00 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #15

    Prime said: View Post
    just because I'm curious, but can you explain that a little bit more?
    How can you recognize it as a pyro model?
    Well, the top of the wing has those three little bits on it that are side by side, ive seen those on several pics of pyros sporting the same, none of the hero versions had that and there arent any undercuts on the insides of the wings, the hero versions were hollow in that area where the acylic and styrene were mated.
    im sure the real experts will chime in soon and correct me if im wrong or add to the details.
    what im curious is the fuselage doesnt have a seam down the middle, i dont see one.
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    Jun 6, 2010, 8:11 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #16

    I'm with Dave...
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    Jun 6, 2010, 9:13 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #17

    No doubt, wings, engines and fuselage are 100% from an original pyro model. That's a kind of recast here, the guy assembled the 2 fuselage halves and copped the canopy before molding it. But all details and shape match the original pyro castings.
    I would kill to get a casting of this baby !
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    Jun 6, 2010, 9:43 PM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #18

    Yeah a bit of love and that should build up nice.
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    Jun 7, 2010, 2:43 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #19

    Apophis said: View Post
    Well, the top of the wing has those three little bits on it that are side by side, ive seen those on several pics of pyros sporting the same, none of the hero versions had that and there arent any undercuts on the insides of the wings, the hero versions were hollow in that area where the acylic and styrene were mated.
    im sure the real experts will chime in soon and correct me if im wrong or add to the details.
    what im curious is the fuselage doesnt have a seam down the middle, i dont see one.

    Thank you for the explanation.
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    Jun 7, 2010, 5:10 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #20

    Big thanks for sharing and cool kit. Nice to see a bird with linage.
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    Jun 7, 2010, 7:03 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #21

    Id love a set of that. You shud get them cleaned up and casted up for those interested. lol. That would be so sweet!
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    Jun 7, 2010, 7:07 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #22

    For me the fuselage is the really critical piece. As heroic as efforts have been to scratch-sculpt one for us geeks, we're still lacking perfection. If this is from an original pyro, then I beg you, please, please cast this thing! This may be the Grail we seek. From these photos I can't really check all the proportion stuff I'd need to check to verify accuracy. For that I'd need to see ortho profile and top shots with the canopy in place. But if Monsieur Tox is already calling it genuine, then I'm very excited indeed. Cheers for posting and sharing!

    Oh, you asked for some photos. Here are a few to start with. Bear in mind though that the first image and the b/w images probably show hero fuselages ( no seam line down the bottom and top) with pyro wings. Which means that there are very few good photos of pure pyro bodies. The fourth image (of Red 6) is one such, though.
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    Jun 7, 2010, 9:40 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #23

    Not wishing to start yet another recast flame-war, but how would it be acceptable to recast this kit rather than any other?
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    Jun 7, 2010, 10:21 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #24

    Knightjar said: View Post
    Not wishing to start yet another recast flame-war, but how would it be acceptable to recast this kit rather than any other?
    In all honesty, it isnt IMO......so all those who do (including me) bag on about recaster's......, still need to stop and think what they spout now and then, as it all gets a bit hypocritical...dont you think?

    lee
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    Jun 7, 2010, 10:27 AM - Re: X-Wing Cast from Original Parts #25

    Knightjar said: View Post
    Not wishing to start yet another recast flame-war, but how would it be acceptable to recast this kit rather than any other?
    Because it's not "a kit" which is sold on the market, it never was either. I think we all agree that's acceptable to get recast from production items (one comes to mind is the storm trooper helmet but there are many original spaceships and props from various movies that have been recast).

    That's not like recasting a model of a garagekit maker who is still producing it and sell it a cheaper price (and quality most of the time, but that not always the case).

    After there is always the problem that it is the property of LucasFilm blablabla but so are all the Star Wars garage kits.

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