The Definitive Golden Idols of Raiders *UPDATED 5-23-08*
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I would almost bet that this is one of the standard frowning stunt idols that has had the mouth reshaped and pupils added. The rest of the idol just jumps out as being from that lineage and not the Gobler one.
My two cents,
Magnoli
My two cents,
Magnoli
GeordieIndy
Sr Member
Hey Indy, how's it going?
As I've never owned an Idol yet, and only ever studied photos of them... Is there much difference between the Gobler Idol and the frown mouth idols, except obviously the mouth, and on this one the eyes. Just the baby on this one is exactly the same as on the Gobler Idol, and the rest looks almost the same to me. I was starting to think even the Gobler Idol lineage is from a frown mouth idol mold...
Maybe I'm not seeing all the tell tale signs, but would definitely appreciate help pointing out the differences!
Thanks,
Andy
There are so many nuances to the face of this (like any face, really) that it's hard to pinpoint them all, but here are a few things that I noticed comparing this to my Gobler idol:
wider nose
top lip curls up more (as on the stunt mouth)
"smile" lines are different (especially where they touch the nose)
butt-crack is different :$
and the baby's face does look a bit different (especially the eyes)
wider nose
top lip curls up more (as on the stunt mouth)
"smile" lines are different (especially where they touch the nose)
butt-crack is different :$
and the baby's face does look a bit different (especially the eyes)
GeordieIndy
Sr Member
Here is something I had never seen before. I know Icons did a prototype idol that had the headband and resculpted mouth, but I did not know they also did an idol with the headband and frown mouth too?
THROW ME THE IDOL - Icons FERTILITY GODDESS IDOL prototype
THROW ME THE IDOL - Icons FERTILITY GODDESS IDOL prototype
Looking at this I think I got one of the DroidBoy castings knocking around in my shed, I fished it out the bin after the store manager knocked it of a shelf and it got smashed in on the base. Were talking well over 10 years a go and it was just a spray paint gold version. The exposed fiberglass was red with green filler.
Peanuts
Re: The Definitive Golden Idols of Raiders
I have one of these,... I wonder what it would be worth? Hmmm...
I have one of these,... I wonder what it would be worth? Hmmm...
Hi, guys. I have thought that this thread would be perfect to show an update on how is oing the work on my second revision of my hero prop fertiliy idol. A few days ago, after several weeks, finally I've got my new idol chromed. Next step, the montage of the parts and the aging work
GeordieIndy
Sr Member
As always Pedro, fantastic work from you! :thumbsup
I look forward to seeing your aged idol.
Regards,
Andy
I look forward to seeing your aged idol.
Regards,
Andy
Shiny :thumbsup
GeordieIndy
Sr Member
I just came across a new photo of two of the original idols. I know some will have seen this on the COW fb page, but for those who haven't, enjoy! I hope it's ok for this photo to be shared here, but anyone from COW wishing for it to be removed, please just let me know.
It really shows the shape of the mouth of the pedestal idol.
It really shows the shape of the mouth of the pedestal idol.
KramStaar
Sr Member
Cheers mate. Here's another one taken when I was up at the Ranch again a few months back.
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Added a pic of the one in the Main House.
Regards..
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GeordieIndy
Sr Member
WOW, another great photo! Thanks for sharing that with us Mark, you know I love this prop!!
Looking at all the photos I have of the original Pedestal Idol, I think sskunky got the closest in eye colour when it comes to replicas.
What I would love to see is some high res photos of the baby face of the Pedestal Idol....
One day I would love to have 4 idols in my collection:
Stunt Idol with frowned mouth
Belloq Idol
Prop Store finish Idol
Pedestal Idol
As it stands I don't have an idol in my collection anymore, so still waiting for that super SA idol to be made.
Regards,
Andy
Looking at all the photos I have of the original Pedestal Idol, I think sskunky got the closest in eye colour when it comes to replicas.
What I would love to see is some high res photos of the baby face of the Pedestal Idol....
One day I would love to have 4 idols in my collection:
Stunt Idol with frowned mouth
Belloq Idol
Prop Store finish Idol
Pedestal Idol
As it stands I don't have an idol in my collection anymore, so still waiting for that super SA idol to be made.
Regards,
Andy
KramStaar
Sr Member
WOW, another great photo! Thanks for sharing that with us Mark, you know I love this prop!!
Looking at all the photos I have of the original Pedestal Idol, I think sskunky got the closest in eye colour when it comes to replicas.
What I would love to see is some high res photos of the baby face of the Pedestal Idol....
One day I would love to have 4 idols in my collection:
Stunt Idol with frowned mouth
Belloq Idol
Prop Store finish Idol
Pedestal Idol
As it stands I don't have an idol in my collection anymore, so still waiting for that super SA idol to be made.
Regards,
Andy
You're welcome mate and it sounds like a great collection you're aiming to have!
BTW, I've added a pic of the one in the Main House as well.
There are a number of versions in the complex including what looks like a Gobler (in the archive building main reception) that is painted a deep, chocolate brown for some reason....
Best
belloq
Sr Member
I love the subtle but superior sculptural differences of the hero idol. The face/head looks larger in relation to the body, perhaps to fit the eyeballs, mechanism, servos and receiver. It's really too bad the restoration was so poor. It destroyed the sharp details. I looks melted and soft compared to the way it looked on screen. Also- did they replace the eyes? I recall the screen-used eyes had realistic iris coloration. I wonder if the Propstore stunt idol with realistic irises is from the hero mold. If so, it may be the only remaining accurate representation of the hero idol sculpture. If only Brandon/Stephen would let it be molded or 3D scanned!
KramStaar
Sr Member
The eyes in the archive one are on poor state as you can see, the left hand one is cracked and shattered and the right hand one has a big blob of glue under the upper lid.
Regarding the PropStore one, Brandon told me that they don't have it any longer
Regards
Mark
GeordieIndy
Sr Member
belloq - I could be wrong but I don't think they replaced the eyes on the Pedestal Idol. It's just some photos make the eyes look darker, almost brown. Where in other photos they appear a more orange colour like the Prop Store Idol. There are all sorts of theories out there questioning which was the original sculpt for the idol, as in, was the original sculpt the frowned mouth idol which was later used on screen as a stunt idol. Then this idol was resculpted slightly which became the shape of the Pedestal and Belloq Idol....
Mark, thanks for the other photo. I had seen that idol, but that's a nice clear shot!! Brandon mentioned a while back that the idol they had is now in the hands of a private collector. Maybe when my lottery numbers come up I can make them an offer to part with it!
Regards,
Andy
Mark, thanks for the other photo. I had seen that idol, but that's a nice clear shot!! Brandon mentioned a while back that the idol they had is now in the hands of a private collector. Maybe when my lottery numbers come up I can make them an offer to part with it!
Regards,
Andy
