I agree. TMP is one of my favorite ST movies. Sure, it's no Wrath of Khan, but I have always enjoyed it. I never thought of it as a snooze fest, more of a think piece.
@ALLEY, have you watched the Director's Cut? I recommend.
One of the most glaring problems is that Abrams doesn't understand Star Trek, pure and simple. He knows the vocabulary, but not the meaning. "Cold fusion," mentioned earlier, being one example. Also:
Kirk: "Mr. Spock has resigned his commission, and advanced me to acting Captain...." (No, he relinquished command. Two very different things.)
Khan: "I will target your life support systems, located behind the aft nacelle..." (No. Just no.)
I would also point out that, at the end of ST 2009, there's a massive black hole somewhere near Earth, except that in STID, we see that it takes less than 5 minutes to get from the border of Klingon space to Earth, so I guess the black hole could be anywhere.
Finally, if time travel exists in-universe, (and is simple enough to be accomplished with a stock Klingon scout ship) then there's no reason that either Romulus or Vulcan should stay destroyed. (For the record, I think they made time travel too easy, going as far back as TOS, but it's too late to complain about that now.)
Pft... a film that doesn't profit is NOT a sucess! Get a grip man.
The reallity is JJ Trek is canon and is here to stay. Get over it, or just watch 60's re-runs of "tribbles"....
Witness the original Battlestar Galactica, The Black Hole, Battle Beyond The Stars, etc. TMP is the opposite of all of that and, for that, it was a victim of its times (yet again, in the franchise’s history.
Just that from a Hollywood perspective if a movie makes back at least its budget, it's not a failure. If it makes back at least twice its budget, it's considered a success. By that metric, one film in thirteen failed, and for good reason, and six of those thirteen succeeded -- notably not including the three new ones, the latter two of which only marginally made back their budgets.
I could not disagree more. Keep in mind this is only MY opinion.
With that, you're wrong. :lol
Battlestar Galactica was about as close to Star Wars at the time and was fantastic. I would know as I was eleven at the time and you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger Star Wars fan than me, and I LOVED Batllestar Galactica.
The Black Hole. Wrong again. You may want to go back and watch it. It was VERY similar to TMP. Haunting soundtrack minimal action, slow moving and left you thinking.
Battle Beyond the Stars...yeah, I'll give you that one. :lol
I swear, I'm sincerely not trying to derail this train.
HOWEVER...
(please correct me if I am in error) Has Disney ever produced an R rated movie under the Disney banner? I believe the answer is "yes"... The Black Hole...
I swear, I'm sincerely not trying to derail this train.
HOWEVER...
(please correct me if I am in error) Has Disney ever produced an R rated movie under the Disney banner?