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    3 Weeks Ago  Jul 27, 2018, 4:17 AM - Pazak deck and game play #1

    So I started playing KOTOR again, for like the fifth or sixth time, and spent more time playing the Pazaak side game than anything else. Then I found a Pazaak Cantina game on the Google Play Store.

    Long story short, I decided I want to make my own decks. The problem is, each player is supposed to bring their own deck to the game, having collected cards from all over the galaxy. Clearly, that's not a viable option, so I'm tweaking the rules a bit.

    According to Wookieepedia, the master deck, or what I've been calling the house deck, is made up of 40 cards, four sets of 1 through 10, all of the same color. In KOTOR, they're green, and all are positive values.

    To alleviate the issue of having players bring their own decks, I've decided to make a Players Deck, which is a single deck that both players randomly draw or are dealt, ten cards each. For the sake of ease and fairness, it'll be random, instead of chosen like in the actual game. Included in the players deck, are all the available cards in KOTOR, add 1 through add 6, subtract 1 through subtract 6, add or subtract 1 through add or subtract 6. These would all have four sets included in the deck. And then, one each of the five specialist cards.
    +/-1 tie breaker, +/- 1 or 2, double, reverse 2&4, and lastly reverse 3&6.

    The game would include the set tokens, a game mat with 9 card slots (since, with KOTOR 2, a 9 slot fill without busting counts as a win, regardless of the point total (which I'm calling a Pazaak)) for each player, as well as regular poker chips for betting. I'm leaving it as a 2 player game for the time being, but developing rules for 3+.

    What sort of card stock would be good to make these?

    I think prototypes can be easily made with regular playing cards, or even UNO cards, but eventually I want to print out a complete set.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Jul 27, 2018, 10:59 AM - Re: Pazak deck and game play #2

    I just finished my own personal Pazaak deck actually. I had it printed through a card printing service, I will get some pics/more info to show you in a bit.


    Here's a picture of the cards I made.



    There are 108 cards total between the two decks I made. The house deck consists of the standard 40, 1-10 green cards. The player cards consist of 4 sets of (+)1-6, 4 sets of (-)1-6, 2 sets of (+/-)1-6, and 2 of each of the yellow cards.

    I'm not sure that's the optimal number of each card, but I wanted to make sure I had 108 cards total, and multiples of each card type.

    So far I've been playing with similar rules to what you stated. There's a single "player deck" consisting of all the player cards and each player is dealt 4 random cards from that deck for each game. I thought it was important to keep the 4 cards maximum for each game.

    I used a service called Printer's Studio to print the cards.




    Let me know if you have any questions.
    Last edited by Peep Williams; 3 Weeks Ago at 11:53 AM.
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    1 Week Ago  Aug 8, 2018, 11:59 PM - Re: Pazak deck and game play #3

    Hey! Currently working out some rules for Pazaak to be played with @TB-7021's 62 card Sabacc deck. So far it has played alright...of course a few changes have been made but it has been enjoyable to play. I would also like to put together a deck made for Pazaak, but the deck I have now will do for the time being.

    I'll type up my notes soon and share!

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    Hey! Currently working out some rules for Pazaak to be played with @TB-7021's 62 card Sabacc deck. So far it has played alright...of course a few changes have been made but it has been enjoyable to play. I would also like to put together a deck made for Pazaak, but the deck I have now will do for the time being.

    I'll type up my notes soon and share!
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    1 Week Ago  Aug 9, 2018, 12:17 AM - Re: Pazak deck and game play #4

    Would love to have a high quality set of Pazaak cards to fool around with (I'd like the back of the cards to be metallic in color, kinda steel-y), maybe redesign the face graphics a bit, but haven't put much thought on starting it.
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    1 Week Ago  Aug 9, 2018, 10:18 AM - Re: Pazak deck and game play #5

    A link to my Pazaak rules are up in the Star Wars Card Games thread:

    https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=286020

    Check it out!

    IB
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    1 Week Ago  Aug 9, 2018, 11:10 AM - Re: Pazak deck and game play #6

    I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any ideas for setting up rules for 3 players with the standard Pazaak cards.

    Also, if anyone wants my card files (they're Photoshop documents) so you can modify them to your liking let me know!
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    1 Week Ago  Aug 10, 2018, 5:08 AM - Re: Pazak deck and game play #7

    These are a little expensive, and I don't quite agree with the number of cards in the player deck, but the designer of the Pazaak Cantina app created decks for sale through MPC.

    https://www.makeplayingcards.com/sel...antinaCardShop

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