James Gunn fired from GOTG 3

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As a parent, I'm surprised to see so many defending someone who admitted to getting an orgasm watching kid porn that was posted on his personal website. Those in the nerd world are willing to let a sicko keep his job just so they can get the Guardians movie they want; which is just pathetic and disgusting.
 
If someone's past twitter account revealed that they posted 1000s of racist jokes I don't know many people that would consider that author was just being edgy or provocative.

Most would think he is raciest.

This guy apparently posted 1000s of tweets like this andI don't see how you can joke about child rape, molestation, NAMBLA, etc withoutbeing comfortable with it.




This is a pretty dense thread, but my take on it is that while Disney may have been able to give Gunn a pass in 2012 they can't do it in our post-Weinstein/MeToo climate. Is that a little backhanded of Disney? Maybe. But they have to cover themselves in case something ever came of it. There are plenty of cases of abuse pre-MeToo that have slipped under the radar because those people kept their heads down after. In this case Gunn kept his head down but once the old stuff was dredged back out Disney had to act.


Gunn didn't keep his head down, he constantly attacked people for their political beliefs and in at least one case, referenced their past social media as proof that he was a raciest/Nazi.

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One can only assume that the delicate souls in this thread have never seen a comedian before.

Talking about murder doesn’t make you a killer, talking about drugs doesn’t make you an addict, and talking about pedophilia doesn’t make you a pedophile.

Is this really that complicated for the people in this thread? “Jokes aren’t just jokes?” Really?

I’ll be the first to say that I didn’t see anything funny in any of the tweets I read, but... wow. Some real mental gymnastics being done here by some. :lol (And THAT, I do find funny.)
 
So, let me see if I understand the gist of things regarding some peoples feelings towards Gunn. You can say/tweet/post anything you want and when you get called on it apologize and say you were joking or young and have grown since then and everything is forgiven, especially if you have made or done something since then that a bunch of people really liked.
 
Gunn didn't keep his head down, he constantly attacked people for their political beliefs and in at least one case, referenced their past social media as proof that he was a raciest/Nazi.
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That's a fair assessment, I was more so thinking of anything of that sexual/harassment nature but I do concede that he's not shy about letting his political opinions out through social media as well.
 
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Keep defending a child porn watcher, your kind makes me sick and you're a piece of sh * t.

He literally is posting about why what you are saying is not true.

I would never defend an actual pedophile. And by all means, Gunn should be shamed for making such jokes in the first place.

But imagine if every off color remark you ever made in ANY context (drunk at a bar, behind a message board alias, etc) over the course of a decade was removed from any context what so ever and compiled into one place and it cost you your job.

I'm pretty sure you'd cry foul.
 
If someone's past twitter account revealed that they posted 1000s of racist jokes I don't know many people that would consider that author was just being edgy or provocative.

Most would think he is raciest.

This guy apparently posted 1000s of tweets like this andI don't see how you can joke about child rape, molestation, NAMBLA, etc withoutbeing comfortable with it.






Gunn didn't keep his head down, he constantly attacked people for their political beliefs and in at least one case, referenced their past social media as proof that he was a raciest/Nazi.

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And those are the reasons I question this happening NOW.

With the volume of comments and the fact they were publicly responded to in 2012 - marvel and disney knew full well about them and had no problem with them until now. If the comments are inexcusable now, they were in 2009 and 2012. They knew when they hired him or shortly thereafter and elected to do nothing. So, if you want to condemn him for it now, so be it. But, you better be condemning Disney and Marvel while you're at as they full well knew of this.

I addressed this, to an extent, before and for some reason its gone now. I didn't make any political commentary - not in the slightest. Maybe the post I quoted did, don't know as i don't see it either.
 
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Absolutely not cool.

this is such an incredibly ridiculous statement. Time to shut this thread down.

Gunn is not a pedophile, the member is not a piece of ****, and you’re statement is thoughtless and ignorant.

and reported.

You do not know he is not a pedophile, so stop acting like you know he is not for a fact. Anyone who thinks the garbage he was posting is funny, seriously brings their self into question. That is not comedy, it is perversion.

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One can only assume that the delicate souls in this thread have never seen a comedian before.

Talking about murder doesn’t make you a killer, talking about drugs doesn’t make you an addict, and talking about pedophilia doesn’t make you a pedophile.

Is this really that complicated for the people in this thread? “Jokes aren’t just jokes?” Really?

I’ll be the first to say that I didn’t see anything funny in any of the tweets I read, but... wow. Some real mental gymnastics being done here by some. :lol (And THAT, I do find funny.)

I have seen plenty of comedians. Sexually abusing children is not comedy. Talking about sexually abusing children is not comedy. It is sick.
 
You do not know he is not a pedophile, so stop acting like you know he is not for a fact. Anyone who thinks the garbage he was posting is funny, seriously brings their self into question. That is not comedy, it is perversion.

No one thinks it's funny.

He's admitted it was failed attempts at being provocative.

I really would love to know how you got through your life being so incredibly perfect you've never had to go through personal growth.


I love how everyone wants the world a better place - for people who don't know the pain of others, or don't know why what they say or do hurts or offends people, to change the way they act. But if those people do change, they can still have their lives ruined down the line cuz they didn't catch up fast enough.

But who cares... the people who took him down weren't offended, in fact they say and do way worse. They were mad he stood up for someone taking a stand against them, and so organized a take down.

And closed minded, knee jerk people like you ate it up.


I personally did and said stuff in my past I would never say now. I made tasteless jokes on race and sexuality I would never even think now. Why? Cuz I grew as a person and am still growing.

So please... since you're so righteously perfect, share your secrets with the rest of us, or please don't quote me again.
 
No one thinks it's funny.

He's admitted it was failed attempts at being provocative.

I really would love to know how you got through your life being so incredibly perfect you've never had to go through personal growth.


I love how everyone wants the world a better place - for people who don't know the pain of others, or don't know why what they say or do hurts or offends people, to change the way they act. But if those people do change, they can still have their lives ruined down the line cuz they didn't catch up fast enough.

But who cares... the people who took him down weren't offended, in fact they say and do way worse. They were mad he stood up for someone taking a stand against them, and so organized a take down.

And closed minded, knee jerk people like you ate it up.


I personally did and said stuff in my past I would never say now. I made tasteless jokes on race and sexuality I would never even think now. Why? Cuz I grew as a person and am still growing.

So please... since you're so righteously perfect, share your secrets with the rest of us, or please don't quote me again.


If finding someone making fun of sexually abusing children is closed minded, I'm guilty as charged. On to the ignore list you go.
 
If finding someone making fun of sexually abusing children is closed minded, I'm guilty as charged. On to the ignore list you go.



Thanks. I hope you did. And since you quoted me you're clearly not just closed minded, but also can't read.
 
You do not know he is not a pedophile

This statement is everything that is wrong with this world. Forget innocent until proven guilty, forget due process, forget any shred of actual evidence. I'm not talking about Gunn, I am talking about this attitude which is seen across the world on a variety of subjects.

This is dangerous wordplay that ruins lives.

I don't know you. I can factually say "I don't know that edge10 is not a murderer" and that's a true statement. I DON'T know if you're a murderer or not... but it sure sounds condemning doesn't it?

No one, repeat NO ONE, here is defending a pedophile or even what Gunn said. Literally no one is giving him a pass. Asking for context and fair treatment though, that is being misread as support, which is insane.
 
This still gets me utterly gobsmacked. He said shocking and offensive and outrageous things when it was his job to be shocking, offensive, and outrageous, working for a company for whom that's been their mission statement since day one. Yes, it probably says something about the sorts of people who can work there, and succeed (not talking about the actors who started with Troma, like Samuel L. Jackson or Marisa Tomei -- when you're an actor a job is a job, and I'd take working in a crappy, 'sploitative, B-and-lower-grade horror flick over getting trapped in a soap opera any day)...

But what really gets me is that he has grown as a person since then. Yeah, the underlying mouthy-a**h***-******* personality is still there, but he said back at the time how making GOTG forced him to grow as a person into something unrecognizable to his past self and he was stunned by the impact it had on him. I agree that punishing people for things they said (said, not demonstrably did) at an earlier stage in their life is moronic. If it doesn't matter if you've grown and changed as a person, why bother growing and changing? I still remember how hiring RDJ to play Tony Stark was a huge risk, because the last thing anyone remembered about him was all the stuff he kept getting arrested for in the late '90s. Wasn't just that he was on ALL THE DRUGS, but the things he did while on them. If he gets another shot at it, when he actually, demonstrably, provably did things, absolutely I stand by that tasteless, crass ******* James Gunn.

Here's the thing... Howard Stern? Sam Kinison? Andrew Dice Clay? Trey Parker and Matt Stone? Hell, Troma? If they were objectively and universally as reviled as some of the opinions herein would seem to imply, they would never have had so many fans or been so successful. Some people do enjoy such material. I don't. But I would never tell anyone they're not allowed to make or enjoy such stuff. This truly is a "vote with your wallet" level of thing. Just keeping things to Hollywood directors, compare what James Gunn said when it was part of his job... to what Roman Polanski did when it wasn't.

ETA: Getoninja, both Gunn and Barr have histories of nonspecific offensive tweets, yes, but what Roseanne got fired for was using seriously racist language to insult a specific person.
 
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ETA: @Getoninja, both Gunn and Barr have histories of nonspecific offensive tweets, yes, but what Roseanne got fired for was using seriously racist language to insult a specific person.

Roseanne (whose show I loved) also continues to post her crazy pizzagate and the like conspiracies. She isn’t learning or growing.

but she is also bipolar and has serious issues I’d wish she’d get help for.
 
ETA: @Getoninja, both Gunn and Barr have histories of nonspecific offensive tweets, yes, but what Roseanne got fired for was using seriously racist language to insult a specific person.

then by your logic, Howard Stern and many other comedians should be fired for joking about a person
And by the screen caps I seen, Gunn made a joke about Shindlers List, which one could argue Gunn is a Nazi

The fact is many comedians over the years have made many offensive jokes towards others. And this comedy, its offensive, its funny, its laughs, its jokes.
 
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