James Gunn fired from GOTG 3

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I think Disney knows that they need to eventually replace the robot Captain Jack Sparrow on the Pirates of the Carribbean ride with a drunken Depp eventually. He'd make the ride more scary.

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Still, if Disney's going to start doing this over who people used to be, Robert Downey, Jr., and Samuel L. Jackson should probably start worrying. Also, if this and Roseanne were bad, in Disney's eyes, how come they keep hiring Johnny Depp?
 
And I say again, we need to trebuchet all the weirdos who take refuge in hollyweird. This guy is a legit sicko, based on some of these tweets of his. I'm willing to bet if someone checked his hard drive they would find terabytes of CP on it. On to the next point of 'oh, this is his past.' Well guess what? When you're trying to get into a professional field: a) don't post this crap at all, b) delete it before you get the job and start a new trend. He failed to do either of those. This crap continued. This shows a modus operandi in his online personality.


Give me a break. Please think... REALLY THINK... before you accuse ANYONE of having child-porn on their computers.

Bad, terrible taste jokes, from a guy surrounded by Troma community, does not equate to pedophilia.

Also - as has been stated a bunch - people change, and if you knew anything about him as a person, you would know he's grown as a person since Troma.

In fact all this happened cuz he was sticking up for a good person.
 
Give me a break. Please think... REALLY THINK... before you accuse ANYONE of having child-porn on their computers.

Bad, terrible taste jokes, from a guy surrounded by Troma community, does not equate to pedophilia.

Also - as has been stated a bunch - people change, and if you knew anything about him as a person, you would know he's grown as a person since Troma.

In fact all this happened cuz he was sticking up for a good person.

I've worked the job that puts people like that away. People who throw jokes around of that variety are usually involved in it up to their eyeballs. The fact he posted about a monkey ejaculating on a child leaves me with no sympathy for him. He's disgusting and clearly needs a lot of help and some time behind bars if he actually witnessed something like that and be happy about it.

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I hope you don't think that is okay?
 
Wow. And this guy has the plums to tell "toxic" Star Wars fans to GO TO THERAPY. Typical. If this isnt the red flag for Disney/LFL to get control of their employees social media protocols then nothing will. Take with a grain of salt what the ones who preach to others how to live is what I get from this.
 
Wow. And this guy has the plums to tell "toxic" Star Wars fans to GO TO THERAPY. Typical. If this isnt the red flag for Disney/LFL to get control of their employees social media protocols then nothing will. Take with a grain of salt what the ones who preach to others how to live is what I get from this.

I'm more shocked people are stepping up to disavow the sick things this weirdo posted about kids. That's what's more disturbing to me, personally. They just write it off as bad/poor humor. The only place jokes like that are okay are on 4chan and 9gag. Plain and simple... and look what caliber of people places like those attract.
 
I'm more shocked people are stepping up to disavow the sick things this weirdo posted about kids. That's what's more disturbing to me, personally. They just write it off as bad/poor humor.

Honestly, as soon as I read about this I was sadly expecting that. Just where we are at in these times.
 
Wow. And this guy has the plums to tell "toxic" Star Wars fans to GO TO THERAPY. Typical. If this isnt the red flag for Disney/LFL to get control of their employees social media protocols then nothing will. Take with a grain of salt what the ones who preach to others how to live is what I get from this.

Exactly. That's why I always find it so obnoxious when celebrities get on their soapboxes to preach to everyone else about how to live. They get paid millions to play "make believe" for a living so excuse me if I can't take any life lessons from them.
 
Exactly. That's why I always find it so obnoxious when celebrities get on their soapboxes to preach to everyone else about how to live. They get paid millions to play "make believe" for a living so excuse me if I can't take any life lessons from them.

So true. Unfortunately some people suck up what these people say and spew it back at others on a regular basis.
 
BTW... To give a little context to Troma days side of this.

If any of the Storyboarders on "Sausage Party" ever ended up directing a Disney flick and had their work from the original version of the "Food orgy" make it online... they would be called sickos and fired as well.

When your career is to make SHOCKING DISGUSTING entertainment for an audience that wants that, you're no signing on to potentially have your life ruined down the line.

And since Disney knows EVERYTHING about their employees past work, then playing this "We're family entertainment and we won't tolerate this!" is a bunch of crap. I knew who he was when they announced him - They DEFINITELY knew.

I dunno. Whatever.
 
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I'm more shocked people are stepping up to disavow the sick things this weirdo posted about kids. That's what's more disturbing to me, personally. They just write it off as bad/poor humor. The only place jokes like that are okay are on 4chan and 9gag. Plain and simple... and look what caliber of people places like those attract.

You are apparently not familiar with Troma... I don't blame you -- they're pretty awful. Their mission statement since they formed in the late '70s seems to be "how can we offend people today?" Another thing to note is that all this actually came up some years ago, there was the expected backlash, Gunn apologized, and everyone forgot about it... Know of Robert Mapplethorpe? As he was with his photography, Gunn was with tweets. The rise he's getting out of y'all was exactly the point.

And if we're saying the stuff people make jokes in poor taste about is an indicator of the stuff they really do, then I've known a lot of murdering, necrophiliac pedophiles over the years. :behave
 
Still, if Disney's going to start doing this over who people used to be, Robert Downey, Jr., and Samuel L. Jackson should probably start worrying. Also, if this and Roseanne were bad, in Disney's eyes, how come they keep hiring Johnny Depp?
Totally. Sylvester Stallone is still getting work as is Bryan friggin singer...

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This is why you don't act like an ***** on social media

How many careers have been ruined by that. How many jobs did people not get because the HR dept combed through facebook/twitter posts

If you are going to live your life on social media, things will always come back to haunt you

We've all said and done juvenile stuff with friends growing up. The difference is we never posted it for the world to see.

These days people seem to have lost that filter in search of more followers/likes
I absolutely agree, He should've known that social media can come back and rightfully or wrongfully bite you in the ass, especially as someone in the public eye. If it was like one or two or pedophilia "jokes", ok weird but whatever, but dozens? Yeah I have zero sympathy for the backlash he's getting for it. That's just straight up creepy.
 
I like to believe people can change, views can evolve, etc. - to what extent we hold our older selves accountable, I don't know - I don't have the answers. Have mixed feelings on this one - but some of those tweets are pretty sick and twisted - and, if true, linking to the Huston Huddleston video is super gross...

That said...

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Trey Parker and Matt Stone also started out at Troma. But they still get their paychecks from being as offensive as they can possibly manage. But I guess since they're even more anti-establishment -- targeting Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama, Trump, Bob Dole, Saddam Hussein... hell, everyone, they haven't warranted as concerted a teardown. Just nibbles around the edges from every direction on a more-or-less ongoing basis.

I know Gunn isn't ashamed of his past, per se. He acknowledged -- when this first came up, and again now -- that he was in a much different headspace then. I don't think he felt like he had to keep his head down lest his past come back to haunt him, as it already had. I imagine he's a little taken aback at why it's so much bigger of a deal now than it was a decade ago (hint: he wasn't as high-profile prior to GOTG). He had to roll back what he'd said then, too, only the stakes were lower.

Yeah we were talking at work. And you nailed it here... When Gunn was writing to be offensive, he wasn't thinking he'd be under the Disney banner or even wanting to make family friendly stuff. It's not where his head was at.

Matt and Trey will NEVER be making a marvel movie, so they can do pretty much anything... But then even they saw that their Asian character was too racist and wrote it back. Times change, not everyone is born "woke"... some learn it.

When I joined the industry it was around the time when "Spike and Mike's sick and twisted film fest" was the way to get industry notice. EVERYONE in my school was making final films that would get them paid at that time - not thinking they could be dragged through the mud for it today. One of our teachers, Mike Grimshaw, made shorts that would never be allowed to even be LINKED here. I remember being so offended that I actually couldn't stand him as a teacher. You can probably find them online.

Point being, none of those students thought anything of those films or being held to them down the line. They were immature in immature times.

One of those students, a good friend of mine, now is like a mom from a 1950's TV show - it's like leave it to beaver in her house. She used to be one of the most offensive people I knew.

I myself made a dog and cat fighting short like old WB stuff... cuz I wasn't into gross out humor... but I was also one of the few whose short didn't get bought up by the gross out companies acquiring them... But DAMN did I want to have a mind for gross out so I COULD sell my short. My buddy went to Australia for the money he got.

I'm not a shock guy, but I totally get why people fall into that. Funny thing is those films would NEVER have been made in that school today... or old ones shown. NO WAY. It's different now.

So one last time. I don't think Gunn's tweets were funny, or appropriate... but neither were some of my best friends short films or jokes being told around that time. They're great people... Not so much then, but Jeez, who hasn't changed their entire personalities in the last 10 years? I think Gunn's apology and explanation is well put, and I feel bad for him. He's known and talked about his past a lot, and how he's changed as a person. What more can he do? The internet doesn't forget.
 
They also have his script and music pics. The vast majority don’t know who directed GOTG. Disney got what they needed... a solid two flicks that will guarantee $$ for the third.. especially after Infinity War. They had no reason not to ditch him. They got their money’s worth - screw the character of the guy he’s become.
 
If Rosanne Barr can get fired off her own show for one dumb tweet then Gunn can get fired off of a Disney movie for 100's or 1000's of foul tweets. He deleted 10,000 tweets so...

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In Barr's case it wasn't just one tweet. She has a long history of posting racist, xenophobic, off the wall stuff. ABC hired her anyway. Her tweets weren't jokes. They were her genuine feelings about certain matters. Gunn's tweets were jokes from long ago that he had already been called out on and apologized for. Also his behavior since those tweets showed tremendous growth on his part. Probably why he can see and point out when others were behaving in a way that demonstrated some much needed growing up and rethinking of their behavior.

Barr's and Gunn's situations just aren't the same.
 
If hes "grown" so much as a person why does he wait to delete 10.000 plus tweets in a day just as this news breaks and not before as a demonstration of his supposed growth? I dont see growth, just blind panic. Jumping on the toxic Star Wars fans bandwagon has done him no favours either. Glass houses anyone?
 
In Barr's case it wasn't just one tweet. She has a long history of posting racist, xenophobic, off the wall stuff. ABC hired her anyway. Her tweets weren't jokes. They were her genuine feelings about certain matters. Gunn's tweets were jokes from long ago that he had already been called out on and apologized for. Also his behavior since those tweets showed tremendous growth on his part. Probably why he can see and point out when others were behaving in a way that demonstrated some much needed growing up and rethinking of their behavior.

Barr's and Gunn's situations just aren't the same.
Have you met any one who was molested as a young child? Have you met any one who was raped? I have and pedophilia and rape are NOT a joking matter. Add to the fact one of his friends was arrested and convinced of child porn. So yeah, two different situations.

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