Rey's terrible very bad Lightsaber skills: Star Wars
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It's not quite Horse Stance, but I'm used to seeing very-low-center-of-gravity stances used in some staff forms...
Stop looking for sword forms in her fighting.
Stop looking for sword forms in her fighting.
Mr Webber
Master Member
If it keeps the main thread off the front page and into the oblivion where it belongs, all the better.
CWDevine
Legendary Member
So basically Rey has no idea of what she's doing in, regards to the use of a lightsaber. Yet, she was able to defeat Kylo Ren. You see how screwed up this whole thing is? Thanks J.J. Abrams!:thumbsup
Bigdaddy
Master Member
Why is that better? I thought the point of a forum was to have a discussion of different view points. This topic really belongs in the TLJ thread, we don't need a bunch of clutter on the main page.
KojiroVance
Sr Member
I couldn’t understand why Rey was doing that exaggerated swinging of the saber side to side, around her back. Looked very dangerous for a beginner (unless she’s a purebred Mary Sue).
Also, a light saber perhaps has no weight other than the hilt, so... what’s the point? It seemed like something that made sense with a prop with a wooden blade, but not something made of, ahem, LIGHT.
Also, a light saber perhaps has no weight other than the hilt, so... what’s the point? It seemed like something that made sense with a prop with a wooden blade, but not something made of, ahem, LIGHT.
kristen jones
Master Member
Okaaaayyyy.... excessive swinging of a lightsaber behind one's back is something that only NOW concerns you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40HhaIJ0QVw
Obi Wan And Anakin swing theirs WAY more excessively behind their backs (and everywhere else, to boot) in this battle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40HhaIJ0QVw
Obi Wan And Anakin swing theirs WAY more excessively behind their backs (and everywhere else, to boot) in this battle.
Paul Andrew
Master Member
But you see, they are dudes - with decades of training behind them no less - so their flamboyant and unrealistic laser sword swinging is entirely justified and unworthy of scorn.
CWDevine
Legendary Member
A trained Jedi, guided by 'The Force' can take such risks. 'The Force' enhances their accuracy and ability to perform feats, others cannot do. Rey has no formal training or full knowledge of 'The force'.
Paul Andrew
Master Member
I don't think you attributed the correct level of sarcasm to my post sir.
Fly4v
Sr Member
Silly Rabbit! The point of public forums is to master the skills of covert censorship while surreptitiously advancing and agenda.
CWDevine
Legendary Member
I never saw anything in the films to indicate the force helps Jedi do fancy and unnecessary behind the back lightsaber moves.
Anyone else wielding a lightsaber like that, without 'The Force' would probably end up limbless.:lol Lucas wanted to show how skillful the Jedi were in the old days. Youth and full of high energy makes the fight exciting!
JPH
Sr Member
Noticed how people ignored that part of your post?
Defenders of TLJ like the insta-master qualities of Rey. You can lead them right up to equal sign that says "no sword proficiency + defeats people with high proficiency = May Sue"
Bigdaddy
Master Member
I understand that is your opinion, I still don't think it's canon, just your personal take on SW and the force.
CWDevine
Legendary Member
In all honesty, we all have our own opinions about SW and 'The Force'. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong for that matter. Some things just seem to line up, making certain things evident even if it's not completely explained.
I find it interesting when the characters who don't have 'The Force' always say, "May the force be with you". Clearly it's almost like they are saying "God's speed" or "May God be with you." In some way they understand 'The Force' as almost being equated to a "higher power" or something. But that's how i see it.
Solo4114
Master Member
Sorry, but there's been goofy swordplay going on since ESB when Luke first did his little spin move.
Go to 1:10 or so in this video to see what I'm talking about.
When Luke spins like that, why not just stab him in the back?
And the prequels...my God...the prequels... Spins and twirls and flips and more twirls and more spins, mid-air cartwheels, etc., etc., etc.
None of it makes a lick of sense from a sword-fighting perspective. As I recall, their stunt coordinator incorporated a variety of techniques, including tennis and axe throwing. Hell, Qui-Gon basically plays racquetball with blaster bolts in the first film.
The only sword duel that made any sense was the one that was the least visually impressive: Obi-Wan and Vader in ANH. They keep their footwork contained, they keep their centers of gravity mostly above their feet, they rarely get off balance or overextend, and it's all an economy of movement waiting for an opening. One which doesn't come until Obi-Wan lets himself get killed.
Every duel since then has been entirely focused on cinematics and visual pizazz rather than good sword-fighting technique. At this point, it's just part of the franchise as a whole, so nitpicking about this or that individual character's bad sword-fighting skills seems like just an excuse to complain about the character on what has become a non-issue in the films.
Go to 1:10 or so in this video to see what I'm talking about.
When Luke spins like that, why not just stab him in the back?
And the prequels...my God...the prequels... Spins and twirls and flips and more twirls and more spins, mid-air cartwheels, etc., etc., etc.
None of it makes a lick of sense from a sword-fighting perspective. As I recall, their stunt coordinator incorporated a variety of techniques, including tennis and axe throwing. Hell, Qui-Gon basically plays racquetball with blaster bolts in the first film.
The only sword duel that made any sense was the one that was the least visually impressive: Obi-Wan and Vader in ANH. They keep their footwork contained, they keep their centers of gravity mostly above their feet, they rarely get off balance or overextend, and it's all an economy of movement waiting for an opening. One which doesn't come until Obi-Wan lets himself get killed.
Every duel since then has been entirely focused on cinematics and visual pizazz rather than good sword-fighting technique. At this point, it's just part of the franchise as a whole, so nitpicking about this or that individual character's bad sword-fighting skills seems like just an excuse to complain about the character on what has become a non-issue in the films.
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KojiroVance
Sr Member
I hardly paid attention to the ROTS conclusion, my head was already in my hands.
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