Jagjaguwar
Sr Member
Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
Number of waves is irrelevant. Did you see how destructive the bombs were to the dreadnought? Why use more bombers? No need. Also, as you said yourself in what I’ve quoted, this is all they had. Not everything is the same, or you could say, “in WW2 the bombers had propellers.” They’re making sci-fi, not reenacting WW2.
If your argument is “even in our world...”, there’s a whole lot of things that don’t make sense. You could begin with lightsabers, or sound in space, and proceed from there. Irrelevant.
Yes they could approach from any direction, but then they’d be spread apart even more, eliminating the overlapping arcs of fire from the bomber’s turret gunners (something non-existent in the small fighters I mentioned). The fact that the turret gunners could cover both their own bomber and those on either side is what kept them alive as long as they were.
My “blurb” is from Wookieepedia, a canon source you cited yourself :lol Ignoring reality? This is Star Wars, and we’re talking about combat in space (with sound!) between spaceships. Reality? Really?
Poe did take out their guns, yes. AA are a reason why bombers (in real life, or in SW) would need to fly in a looser formation. No more guns meant they could fly closer together, for the reasoning given in Wookieepedia, and my description above.
Yes, one bomber did make it. It’s how the story was written for it to play out. It’s not as if writers write a battle scene, and look at what’s happening in order to determine: “hey, looks like the First Order will come out on top in this one!” Obviously the result is predetermined. No less impossible than the Falcon surviving a direct attack on a SD, one would think. Both happened.
I’ve explained the plan, and why they’d fly close together. Wookieepedia explains it. If you don’t want to accept the explanation that’s fine, but don’t pretend there isn’t any. There’s screencaps above. There’s a “blurb” directly out of Wookieepedia.
As for the last sentence, the story demanding that something stupid (replace with unlikely, or unexpected, or lucky, or random, etc) is the backbone of numerous films. Why does the Death Star come out of orbit on the wrong side of Yavin? The answer is what you said, the story demands it.
Except...
WWII bombers came in waves on a planet. Not six. But hundreds of bombers.
Even in our world, bombers have clips attached to their ship, when dropped, the clips armed the bombs.
Your observation is entirely absurd. In space you can approach from ANY direction. Six bombers from six different directions means reduction of incoming fire by 84%!!!
Whoever wrote your blurb is trying to excuse bad writing. Ignoring reality and credible tactics doesnt make it acceptable.
Good thing Poe took out their anti-aircraft! That was sarcasm.
Clumping together results in the enemy aiming for ONE BIG TARGET. They died. It was a frivilous waste of personel and ships.
And, as I recall, one, lone bomber DID make it.
Gee, wonder why ?
So yes, it was a completely stupid plan. Vacuous of any common sense or strategy. This is supposed to be the Last bomber fleet, so even more insult to how plainly ridiculous the entire scene was.
The story demanding something really really stupid happen is the backbone of tlj.
Number of waves is irrelevant. Did you see how destructive the bombs were to the dreadnought? Why use more bombers? No need. Also, as you said yourself in what I’ve quoted, this is all they had. Not everything is the same, or you could say, “in WW2 the bombers had propellers.” They’re making sci-fi, not reenacting WW2.
If your argument is “even in our world...”, there’s a whole lot of things that don’t make sense. You could begin with lightsabers, or sound in space, and proceed from there. Irrelevant.
Yes they could approach from any direction, but then they’d be spread apart even more, eliminating the overlapping arcs of fire from the bomber’s turret gunners (something non-existent in the small fighters I mentioned). The fact that the turret gunners could cover both their own bomber and those on either side is what kept them alive as long as they were.
My “blurb” is from Wookieepedia, a canon source you cited yourself :lol Ignoring reality? This is Star Wars, and we’re talking about combat in space (with sound!) between spaceships. Reality? Really?
Poe did take out their guns, yes. AA are a reason why bombers (in real life, or in SW) would need to fly in a looser formation. No more guns meant they could fly closer together, for the reasoning given in Wookieepedia, and my description above.
Yes, one bomber did make it. It’s how the story was written for it to play out. It’s not as if writers write a battle scene, and look at what’s happening in order to determine: “hey, looks like the First Order will come out on top in this one!” Obviously the result is predetermined. No less impossible than the Falcon surviving a direct attack on a SD, one would think. Both happened.
I’ve explained the plan, and why they’d fly close together. Wookieepedia explains it. If you don’t want to accept the explanation that’s fine, but don’t pretend there isn’t any. There’s screencaps above. There’s a “blurb” directly out of Wookieepedia.
As for the last sentence, the story demanding that something stupid (replace with unlikely, or unexpected, or lucky, or random, etc) is the backbone of numerous films. Why does the Death Star come out of orbit on the wrong side of Yavin? The answer is what you said, the story demands it.
