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    2 Days Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 9:18 AM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2626

    I'm glad they're slowing down. I was all for the ST coming out quickly. Mainly because of the age of the actors. And Carrie's untimely passing, made it all the more apparent to me that they were filming on very finite time schedule. And while they could have written out characters who's actors had died. I was, and am, very concerned that John Williams could pass before the saga is finished. I can't imagine watching one of the saga films with out my ears being graced by John's themes. Love it or hate it, TLJ has one of the best scores of the entire saga.
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    2 Days Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 11:31 AM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2627

    Despite the prequels being bad John Williams scores are flawless and fit perfectly with the OT. Other than perhaps two songs/themes in TFA his work on the ST has been unnoticeable. Which is a shame because even with bad films, if the scores were memorable then at least I could get the soundtracks. I can't think of a single bar of music that stood out in TLJ. I'm not sure what it is but his work on these is nowhere near what it used to be on the previous six films. I literally can't think if a single piece that I could recall later after having seen the movie. Nothing. It might as well have had no score at all. What a shame.
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    2 Days Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 11:49 AM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2628

    That hurts my soul to read! I have by no means exhaustively studied the scores, but I own and have listened to them several times. The themes for Rey and Kylo don't seem as 'hummable' as OT themes, if that is to be any kind of qualification, but they're both excellent in their own right and have definitely grown on me. The Canto Bight music stands out to my brain the most as far as new music in TLJ goes, and I'll admit it's not my favorite piece. But, lots of old themes pop up in TLJ. He references the TIE fighter attack during the scene where the falcon flies through the caverns on Crait. The Jedi Steps from the end of TFA makes a reappearance at the start of the movie also, not to mention the Binary Sunset cue at the end.
    Both soundtracks are pretty stellar imo, especially after several listens. YMMV, of course.
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    2 Days Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 12:29 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2629

    I guess poor Kathleen can be relieved that she has been dropped from this discussion, in favor of trashing everything else.
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    2 Days Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 12:32 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2630

    Meanwhile, I adore the Solo score more than TFA and TLJ and Rogue One. A lot in there I find quite hummable. And one thing I'd love to see get incorporated at some point is the original "Binary Sunset" cue...

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    2 Days Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 12:42 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2631

    Psab keel said: View Post
    Despite the prequels being bad John Williams scores are flawless and fit perfectly with the OT. Other than perhaps two songs/themes in TFA his work on the ST has been unnoticeable. Which is a shame because even with bad films, if the scores were memorable then at least I could get the soundtracks. I can't think of a single bar of music that stood out in TLJ. I'm not sure what it is but his work on these is nowhere near what it used to be on the previous six films. I literally can't think if a single piece that I could recall later after having seen the movie. Nothing. It might as well have had no score at all. What a shame.
    I'm going to say, I think your biased towards TLJ has hurt your listening experience.

    I did some completely unusual for TLJ. I began listening the soundtrack a week before I saw the film. And while it spoiled the return of Yoda for me, it was a very unique experience.

    Somethings really stood out for me. The overall tone, felt more somber, reminding me of a lot of ROTS. Rey's theme and the March of the Resistance felt they had more depth and fullness to them. And the new themes for Luke and Rey, and for Rose and Finn, were incredibly memorable, and constantly find myself whistling one of them. The new musical cues for the Resistance bombers and the one for Holdo's maneuver were pure musical gold for me. Everything after Luke shows up on Crait, and of course the reuse of the TIE Fighter attack from ANH, one of my favorite pieces, ever.
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    1 Day Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 1:15 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2632

    Guys, Bob Iger didn't say Carrie Fischer WASN'T being replaced by a Disney animatronic in Ep9, so that MUST be what's happening!
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    1 Day Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 1:23 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2633

    Inquisitor Peregrinus said: View Post
    Meanwhile, I adore the Solo score more than TFA and TLJ and Rogue One. A lot in there I find quite hummable. And one thing I'd love to see get incorporated at some point is the original "Binary Sunset" cue...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYXLmHmTrzU
    One of the most interesting things about TLJ score. Rian didn't temp track the film, which isn't done much. And is I think a first for Star Wars.
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    1 Day Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 1:50 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2634

    While it's no surprise that I detest this film I've had the opportunity to listen to the soundtrack to The Last Jedi by itself and still nothing stood out as being all that memorable. It's not bad, it just doesn't grab me.

    The only themes that stood out to me from the TFA soundtrack were Rey's theme, March of the Resistance, and The Jedi Steps at the end of the film. Other than that the TFA score was fairly bland and seemed drowned out by most of the sound effects and dialog in the movie itself. It didn't sound much different than a generic score for any other movie which is a shame because John WIlliams music is so distinct. Typically with William's scores I don't have to sit and really dig into them to pull out the nuances and beauty in the music. While the music for the ST isn't bad (Williams seems incapable of making bad music in my opinion) what I am arguing is that it's simply not memorable.
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    1 Day Ago  Sep 21, 2018, 6:25 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2635

    ALLEY said: View Post
    I never thought I`d get to use augury in a sentence. Its in the tea leaves man.
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    22 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 2:49 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2636

    Psab keel said: View Post
    Despite the prequels being bad John Williams scores are flawless and fit perfectly with the OT. Other than perhaps two songs/themes in TFA his work on the ST has been unnoticeable. Which is a shame because even with bad films, if the scores were memorable then at least I could get the soundtracks. I can't think of a single bar of music that stood out in TLJ. I'm not sure what it is but his work on these is nowhere near what it used to be on the previous six films. I literally can't think if a single piece that I could recall later after having seen the movie. Nothing. It might as well have had no score at all. What a shame.
    Same here, although I thought the music was pretty bland in TFA when I saw it in theatres but listening to the album, there are a few really good tracks and new themes. Maybe the mix was not right in the film, I dunno, it does take some time for the soundtrack to sink in usually unless it's Halloween. I gave the TLJ soundtrack a few spins for this very reason but haven't really found anything that wasn't there before either in TFA or the OT. Nothing substantial at least.


    Paul Andrew said: View Post
    But, lots of old themes pop up in TLJ. He references the TIE fighter attack during the scene where the falcon flies through the caverns on Crait. The Jedi Steps from the end of TFA makes a reappearance at the start of the movie also, not to mention the Binary Sunset cue at the end.
    Both soundtracks are pretty stellar imo, especially after several listens. YMMV, of course.
    So basically what's good in the TLJ soundtrack is what's already been done...?
    I'm not bashing the music to give the movie another kick, I disregard the prequels as a whole but I still added quite a few tracks from that to my SW playlist. But I didn't find anything really worthwile in that soundtrack either. I was actually genuinely disappointed to hear the Emperor's theme when Snoke was torturing Rey for example. I remember thinking to myself at the theatre "surely you could have come up with something new here, Mr Williams".
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    20 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 4:33 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2637

    sztriki said: View Post
    So basically what's good in the TLJ soundtrack is what's already been done...?
    Yeah, that's exactly what I meant so long as you ignore the first half of my post
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    20 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 4:45 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2638

    I've noticed that most Star Wars fans hold the OT as the gold standard. But I have friends who I recently introduced to Star Wars, and while I started them with OT. They all prefer the PT or ST, movies, music, characters and so on.

    So when I hear people lamenting, that 'it's not as good as the OT'. Of course it's not, and it never will. The new films will never ever give you that same experience or feeling you got watching the originals. Dare I say, it's scientifically impossible. And keep in mind for those out there who are being introduced to Star Wars with the Sequel trilogy. That is going to be their gold standard. That will be the Star Wars that they compare all else to.
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    20 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 4:59 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2639

    laszlo said: View Post
    She's going to take over from Bob Iger at Disney - so I've heard.
    Dear God I hope so, I love the direction the franchise is going, I love all the new content. Including TLJ.
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    19 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 5:40 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2640

    Paul Andrew said: View Post
    Yeah, that's exactly what I meant so long as you ignore the first half of my post
    True, I forgot you mentioned the lounge music of Canto Bight in relation to TLJ.
    Which actually is a fun spaced out track. But sounds like bringing Lapti Nek as a standout from ROTJ.
    I do actually like the new themes, Rey’s Kylo’s, Resistance march, but what were new themes in TLJ that were not reworks of previous ones?
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    19 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 5:55 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2641

    For some fun in this dead-horse thread...

    im not a Finn fan, but Boyega is a all around cool guy I’ve followed on social media since TFA...

    DD1A6007-B7E4-4DA9-AF89-F3B3A91A3C9C.jpeg

    Always love seeing stuff like this. Don’t know if it’s old or not, just came up in a feed.
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    17 Hours Ago  Sep 22, 2018, 7:13 PM - Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm? #2642

    sztriki said: View Post
    True, I forgot you mentioned the lounge music of Canto Bight in relation to TLJ.
    Which actually is a fun spaced out track. But sounds like bringing Lapti Nek as a standout from ROTJ.
    I do actually like the new themes, Rey’s Kylo’s, Resistance march, but what were new themes in TLJ that were not reworks of previous ones?
    There's the new sweeping theme for Luke and Rey. And couple of amazing musical cues when; the Resistance bombers fly into battle, Holdo's maneuver, and everything between Luke and Kylo.

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