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    Mar 27, 2018, 9:39 PM - Original V2 switch #1

    In order to not detract from the current V2 run thread - lets talk about the V2's original condition!

    Toggle switches? it looks more straight and thin than cone shaped to me

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    actually, I'm wrong, it IS the classical cone shaped toggle switch
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    Red guitar toggle switches are around
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Way-Toggl...ss!14222!US!-1
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    Mar 27, 2018, 10:55 PM - Re: Original V2 switch #2

    Good idea for a new thread I was worried the switch discussions would derail the v2 stuff.
    I think that's the exact photo I've been digging through my archives looking for.
    It does, kinda, look like a push button switch.
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    Mar 27, 2018, 11:10 PM - Re: Original V2 switch #3

    I think it looks like a toggle switch...

    https://www.parts-express.com/data/d...0-510_HR_0.jpg
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    Mar 28, 2018, 12:38 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #4

    Ridire Firean said: View Post
    I think it looks like a toggle switch...

    https://www.parts-express.com/data/d...0-510_HR_0.jpg
    I’m in the toggle camp now too after seeing a close up . Thing is, those red rubber sleeves have a bump at the top. The thing we’re seeing on set looks to be completely round on the to, so most likely colored plastic like a guitar toggle switch, I linked to one above

    and I know, phrasing?
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    Mar 28, 2018, 3:35 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #5

    Great idea, looking this thread with interest
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    Mar 28, 2018, 7:26 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #6

    Yes! Finally the red switch thread!!

    I have been looking for a while, this is such a hard find online because you can’t see the physical size...

    And the hole has to be small enough so the cone knob covers it

    I seem to have found switches to large, and switches to small...

    “That just right switch” is a hard porridge to find..
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    Mar 28, 2018, 8:21 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #7

    More I look at this, the more it looks like a toggle switch.
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    Mar 28, 2018, 8:40 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #8

    Reading over my last post, I must correct my thought. It kinda looks like a push button switch.... but I do believe it's a toggle switch. Long day at work with no sleep, makes posting....something something.
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    So you guys are thinking it's a Les Paul's 3 way switch? Why wouldn't they use just a simple on/off?
    I was looking at something like this.
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    Mar 28, 2018, 9:22 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #9

    russellsch said: View Post
    Reading over my last post, I must correct my thought. It kinda looks like a push button switch.... but I do believe it's a toggle switch. Long day at work with no sleep, makes posting....something something.
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    So you guys are thinking it's a Les Paul's 3 way switch? Why wouldn't they use just a simple on/off?
    I was looking at something like this.
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    Nice work!


    Yeah, it's unlikely anyone would dismantle a guitar just for a switch.
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    Mar 28, 2018, 10:01 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #10

    russellsch said: View Post
    Reading over my last post, I must correct my thought. It kinda looks like a push button switch.... but I do believe it's a toggle switch. Long day at work with no sleep, makes posting....something something.


    So you guys are thinking it's a Les Paul's 3 way switch? Why wouldn't they use just a simple on/off?
    I was looking at something like this.
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    that´s exactly the switch I used on my build(s)
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    Mar 28, 2018, 10:09 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #11

    is anyone else seeing this shape, but in another color?
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    Mar 28, 2018, 10:50 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #12

    thd9791 said: View Post
    is anyone else seeing this shape, but in another color?
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    Definitely seeing this as well. Im seeing more of a red-orange like this
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    Mar 28, 2018, 2:32 PM - Re: Original V2 switch #13

    I think the switch looks right but something makes me think it's not. The hang up for me is that how would you get the switch in the saber? There isn't room to mount it, or move it. Maybe toggle switch or a momentary switch, but even then not room to mount it.
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    Mar 28, 2018, 3:31 PM - Re: Original V2 switch #14

    newmagrathea said: View Post
    I think the switch looks right but something makes me think it's not. The hang up for me is that how would you get the switch in the saber? There isn't room to mount it, or move it. Maybe toggle switch or a momentary switch, but even then not room to mount it.
    More then enough room in starkiller’s v2
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    Mar 28, 2018, 4:09 PM - Re: Original V2 switch #15

    I don't know, something doesn't sit right with me on it. Another thought I had is why would they use a toggle switch? You know what it reminds me of is a pot. Later when it becomes Lukes stunt, it even looks like they put a guitar tone knob on it. It also makes sense that they would use a pot, that way they could adjust the speed of the motor. I don't know, just throwing ideas out there.

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    More then enough room in starkiller’s v2
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    Mar 28, 2018, 4:13 PM - Re: Original V2 switch #16

    newmagrathea said: View Post
    I don't know, something doesn't sit right with me on it. Another thought I had is why would they use a toggle switch? You know what it reminds me of is a pot. Later when it becomes Lukes stunt, it even looks like they put a guitar tone knob on it. It also makes sense that they would use a pot, that way they could adjust the speed of the motor. I don't know, just throwing ideas out there.
    I hear ya buddy, Luke’s stunt had a big white button on it. These were built at the same time, and there was never any consistency with any of them. No potentiometer’s on luke, just a cheap lamp push button.

    It would make total sense to have a potentiometer on these things to fine tune the speeds, but I think these were built like everything else, rush job

    And with this rush job they failed

    A guitar switch is much larger then some toggle switches, I wouldn’t be surprised if this switch is another common house hold switch like the white button is on the luke stunt

    I’m really not looking for original, I’m looking for something as close as I can get

    stumbled upon those red silicone tips for toggle switches, just need to find a switch the right size
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    Mar 29, 2018, 2:44 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #17

    halliwax said: View Post
    I hear ya buddy, Luke’s stunt had a big white button on it. These were built at the same time, and there was never any consistency with any of them. No potentiometer’s on luke, just a cheap lamp push button.

    It would make total sense to have a potentiometer on these things to fine tune the speeds, but I think these were built like everything else, rush job

    And with this rush job they failed

    A guitar switch is much larger then some toggle switches, I wouldn’t be surprised if this switch is another common house hold switch like the white button is on the luke stunt

    I’m really not looking for original, I’m looking for something as close as I can get

    stumbled upon those red silicone tips for toggle switches, just need to find a switch the right size
    Plus I'm sure I read somewhere that Alec Guiness slowed down the speed of the saber with his finger - that's why he gripped it around the neck.


    So yeah, I reckon no potentiometer was used.
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    Mar 29, 2018, 8:01 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #18

    It looks more like a push in and "click" to turn on, push in "click" to turn off....type button to me.....y'know...like the end of a pen?

    Rich
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    Mar 29, 2018, 8:35 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #19

    That's the beauty of building our own props. If we put on, what we find out later to be, a wrong part... well, we can simply swap out the incorrect part for the correct one . & since we put it together, we'll know how to take it apart, fix it, & put it back together. & in doing so, we increase its accuracy & value. It's a win win!
    If you "crack open" a licensed Master Replica piece, for example, say by by to the value.
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    Mar 29, 2018, 8:57 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #20

    andyroo said: View Post
    Yeah, it's unlikely anyone would dismantle a guitar just for a switch.
    I don't think they used a guitar switch either, but as far as them dismantling one to use a switch? They dismantled an entire jet engine to use for set dressing and props. A guitar would be nothing. Not to mention where ever this switch did come from, its most likely something they just had lying around.
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    Mar 29, 2018, 9:05 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #21

    I think the thing that has been bothering me is that the switch in either position would be at a slight angle, but I'm not seeing that. It looks perpendicular.

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    Mar 29, 2018, 10:01 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #22

    newmagrathea said: View Post
    I think the thing that has been bothering me is that the switch in either position would be at a slight angle, but I'm not seeing that. It looks perpendicular.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/l2SpQR...XHqM/giphy.gifhttps://media.giphy.com/media/l2SpQR...XHqM/giphy.gif
    you have a good point - it IS perpendicular, ad I can almost see the nut outside the body at it's base.

    A three way switch would be straight but that sounds utterly too big

    maybe it is a pot, with a cone shaped plastic handle?

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    I will say, alec guinness had to hold the emitter and use his fingers to slow down the rotation so the blades wouldn't splinter! if they had a dial, you'd think theyd just turn it down
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    Mar 29, 2018, 10:38 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #23

    newmagrathea said: View Post
    I think the thing that has been bothering me is that the switch in either position would be at a slight angle, but I'm not seeing that. It looks perpendicular.
    It depends on the orientation of the switch, if it's mounted so it toggles side to side rather than up the length of the body, we probably wouldn't be able to notice the angle in the picture we've got. Unless there's more reference somewhere, I have a few other pics of this saber, but none that show the switch.
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    Mar 29, 2018, 10:50 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #24

    Good points guys.

    Here is all of my reference photos besides the ones already posted. None are going to help with this issue. I was collecting them so I could figure out the paint color scheme. Does anyone else have any good ones?







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    Mar 29, 2018, 11:06 AM - Re: Original V2 switch #25

    I was gathering pics for the same reason, most popped up in one of the big V2 threads. Here are a few more in addition to yours:
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