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Looking for Luke's Green Milk Bottle from Ahch-To. Any ideas?
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OK I just got back from Joann's and got some leather-like fabric for the strap that I think will be close enough.
But now I'm trying to figure out how the strap is constructed.
I can see a wide band around the whole bottle made of a dark gray blue leather type material, but there's another piece crisscrossing it and I can't really tell what's going on there.
If you look at the visual dictionary bottle (which is completely different in shape and design, and is also the version Hot Toys went with on their TLJ 6th scale Luke) the wide band is the gray leather and then there's a thinner 1 inch grey webbing strap that's also tied with some brown waxed twine. That image has a better shot of how the strap is constructed but it also appears to be different than the one seen in the movie.
So I can either try to mimic the visual dictionary strap since I can see that one better, or try to copy what is seen on screen but maybe get it more wrong.
Opinions?
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But now I'm trying to figure out how the strap is constructed.
I can see a wide band around the whole bottle made of a dark gray blue leather type material, but there's another piece crisscrossing it and I can't really tell what's going on there.
If you look at the visual dictionary bottle (which is completely different in shape and design, and is also the version Hot Toys went with on their TLJ 6th scale Luke) the wide band is the gray leather and then there's a thinner 1 inch grey webbing strap that's also tied with some brown waxed twine. That image has a better shot of how the strap is constructed but it also appears to be different than the one seen in the movie.
So I can either try to mimic the visual dictionary strap since I can see that one better, or try to copy what is seen on screen but maybe get it more wrong.
Opinions?
visual dictionary
screen used
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Here’s what I’m seeing from the visual dictionary version.
Do you guys think they just swapped bottles and used the same strap?
Do you guys think they just swapped bottles and used the same strap?
Yeah. Now that I look at it and hold it the way he is in the movie I’m like really sure it’s the same strap as the visual dictionary version. Look how the webbing folds naturally when gripped that way. It matches the screenshot exactly.
OK This "tutorial" is mostly for @halliwax since he's making a bottle too, but if anyone else is ever interested, here's what I came up with.
3D models of the bottle parts are here
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2843583
Bottle is here
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MRNUJH2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_XuPXAbSYBVQWH
The finished [p]leather band should be 41mm wide. To make mine look a little nicer, I doubled that and folded it over on itself to give it some extra thickness and so that it's leather on both sides (when looking through the glass to the other side, you see [p]leather on the inside as well instead of the fabric lining). For the width of the bottles I have, I cut the band at 12 1/2 inches by 3 1/4 inches, then ran some glue long the fabric side and folded it over on itself to make a double sided leather band 12 1/2 inches long by 1 5/8 inches (approx 41mm) wide.
Now, you need to make a triangular point on the left end of the band. To get the correct angle, mark a line 40mm from the end, then come in at angles to the center and cut to form a point.
Next, curve the band around (you can use the bottle to ensure a tight fit) and overlap the pointed end over the other end, and glue down with super glue. Don't glue the strap to the bottle, you want to be able to remove it so you can adjust, wash, etc. Just glue the strap to itself to form a loop.
For the strap, start with a piece of gray 1" nylon webbing that is 28 inches long.
Mark a line at 8 inches from the left end, and another line at around 11 3/8 inches from the left end.
Run the webbing through the band as shown (note the orientation of the pointed end), and line the end up with the 8 inch mark. Secure with some super glue (you can add a rivet later)
Next, fold the right end up and line it up with the 11 3/8 inch mark. Secure with some super glue to hold it tightly in place. You should end up with something like this.
Next, crease the double layer of webbing where the strap ends and tie some waxed hemp twine or leather around it with a double knot. Leave a loose end for later.
Then wrap the twine messily and randomly around the webbing, crisscrossing a bit. I did about 15 wraps. You want to end up with a wrapping that is approximately 21 mm wide.
On the last wrap, I threaded the end of the twine back through the crease (under the wrapping) and back over to duplicate the visual dictionary image. Then I tied that loose end to the original loose end from my first double knot.
And there you go! all finished. Add a rivet (I think it's a rivet) or other fastener to the first loop if you want to be super accurate.
3D models of the bottle parts are here
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2843583
Bottle is here
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MRNUJH2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_XuPXAbSYBVQWH
The finished [p]leather band should be 41mm wide. To make mine look a little nicer, I doubled that and folded it over on itself to give it some extra thickness and so that it's leather on both sides (when looking through the glass to the other side, you see [p]leather on the inside as well instead of the fabric lining). For the width of the bottles I have, I cut the band at 12 1/2 inches by 3 1/4 inches, then ran some glue long the fabric side and folded it over on itself to make a double sided leather band 12 1/2 inches long by 1 5/8 inches (approx 41mm) wide.
Now, you need to make a triangular point on the left end of the band. To get the correct angle, mark a line 40mm from the end, then come in at angles to the center and cut to form a point.
Next, curve the band around (you can use the bottle to ensure a tight fit) and overlap the pointed end over the other end, and glue down with super glue. Don't glue the strap to the bottle, you want to be able to remove it so you can adjust, wash, etc. Just glue the strap to itself to form a loop.
For the strap, start with a piece of gray 1" nylon webbing that is 28 inches long.
Mark a line at 8 inches from the left end, and another line at around 11 3/8 inches from the left end.
Run the webbing through the band as shown (note the orientation of the pointed end), and line the end up with the 8 inch mark. Secure with some super glue (you can add a rivet later)
Next, fold the right end up and line it up with the 11 3/8 inch mark. Secure with some super glue to hold it tightly in place. You should end up with something like this.
Next, crease the double layer of webbing where the strap ends and tie some waxed hemp twine or leather around it with a double knot. Leave a loose end for later.
Then wrap the twine messily and randomly around the webbing, crisscrossing a bit. I did about 15 wraps. You want to end up with a wrapping that is approximately 21 mm wide.
On the last wrap, I threaded the end of the twine back through the crease (under the wrapping) and back over to duplicate the visual dictionary image. Then I tied that loose end to the original loose end from my first double knot.
And there you go! all finished. Add a rivet (I think it's a rivet) or other fastener to the first loop if you want to be super accurate.
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Did your cap come gray like that? or did you paint it?
or is that the white cap and it just looks gray to me?
or is that the white cap and it just looks gray to me?
And FINISHED!
Frosted the glass, added a rivet to the strap and weathered the webbing a bit.
Frosted the glass, added a rivet to the strap and weathered the webbing a bit.
I'm just still so surprised at how your bottle's neck is so vertical. Both of mine have a huge flare on them. and then to hear how differently sized they are, there's a LOT of variation with this particular bottle.
sw63
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Love what you guys have done with this. When I've got a bit more time I'm going to make mine much more like yours, Trent - but I'm going to be a cheapskate and wrap gaffer tape around the bottom!
Perhaps the original prop got smashed on Skellig - hence the crappy version in the V.D.?
Perhaps the original prop got smashed on Skellig - hence the crappy version in the V.D.?
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I can send you a 3d print if you want.
I think even in the movie, after the completely unnecessary and quite disturbing milk scene, when Luke throws his pack down on the ground, it's the V.D. version of the bottle.
sw63
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That's a really kind offer Trent and I thank you for it, but postage costs to the UK are ridiculously high. I'll just "stick" to the gaffer tape for now!
OK so now that the movie is out, there's definitely a little more to the strap than I previously thought.
It looks like there's snaps on it and maybe some kind of square buckle.
What do you think?
It looks like there's snaps on it and maybe some kind of square buckle.
What do you think?
