Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Post-release)
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DarthLee
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Or maybe they believe.
Hey It worked 20 years ago for the 20 year olds... maybe it will work again now , 20 years later for the 20 year olds
spacebob
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Apologies if this has been discussed already but can someone explain to me why TLJ copied ESB and ROTJ so much?
I took my daughter (10 yrs old) to see the film she loved it had a great time didn't care about the ESB/ ROTJ reboots but she still noticed them.
TLJ is a really nicely made film (with some exceptions) but I don't understand the process by which the director and the producers go "Lets copy these scenes from these movies that's a good idea!" To me it's distracting, it pulls me out of the film and it's like they've run out of ideas or something which can't be true.
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I basically agree with DarthLee on this.
We have essentially had a reboot for the Jonny come latelys who were either to young, or they are older and simply regret missing out on something that they have been jealous of, in such a cool group of people.
The Geeks that they used to ridicule have had something important in their lives... passion. They want in and they want their kids in.
The most interesting thing is where it goes from here? This was just like Empire and Jedi in one.
For the first time since walking out of the viewing of TFA I can't call it.
Disney could somehow just do a deeper Jedi ripoff next time but I hope we finally get some originality.
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For all of you keeping score, THIS is all that matters. The future of the franchise is in her hands not all of us.
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Exactly. Ryan provided Mark with his single greatest performance on film in his life and he knows it and appreciates it.
DarthLee
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Love the film. Hate the film
The future for Disney/StarWars.. is to hopefully grab non SW fans or who do not know any back story.. and make them believe in the Force.
ImperialShuttle
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I haven’t seen much talk about the art direction in this movie. If there was one aspect of the Disney movies I thought I could count on, it was that they were safely back in the hands of people who knew how to recreate the look and feel of the OT. TFA, and Rogue One especially, made me feel comfortable in ways the Lucas prequels didn’t. What happened? Snokes red room looked like a green screen set with a red wall. The movie was littered with sets and scenes like that. And the casino planet was completely outside the Star Wars universe. I didn’t even think the lightsabers looked very good. The attention to detail just wasn’t there.
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Mr Webber
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And when they are old enough to realise the difference between what is a great film and what is a corporate money grab, they will drop it like a hot potatoe
DarthLee
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By that time, Disney has made it.. sad to say.. but maybe a smart idea they have....
They better still carry alot of Luke, Vadar and Yoda costumes though.
ddspike22
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I loved Rogue one too. It was still funny but never felt forced or too slapstick like last jedi. And it actually took itself more seriously and had heart. I actually cared for Jyn Erso in a way I never cared about any of the characters in the new trilogy.I know its hard being ill with Star Wars sometimes @Jaitea
Every now and then it will throw up something that you love, like Rogue One. (Did I mention that I love Rogue One) and that's enough
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Bloop
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Another quick fan theory I've come up with: What if Snoke was a creation of Kylo Ren? A Wizard of Oz sort of false leader. I don't think it's true, but a case might be made. If Kylo was the one pulling the strings, and the use of Snoke all that was done to try to make Rey join him, and also to manipulate Hux, it might make sense why Snoke was killed off so easily.
jcroscigno
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I have about a penny's worth of thoughts to add;
I liked it - I thought overall it was a more interesting movie than TFA. I'm still interested in knowing what happens with Rey - and I thought seeing Ben/Kylo go back and forth (from hesitating to fire on Leia) only to really commit himself at the end as Supreme Leader was well done. The humor was nice in my eyes - it actually landed for the most part whereas the PT stuff never really did. I loved seeing Luke just toss the Graflex, especially after two years of Graflex-mania with the prop-building groups. Finn/Rose/DJ was an interesting enough subplot - I thought showing the war-profiteering was poignant and apropos. The stampede was pretty fun too, and I liked that they freed the animals. Poe's character development was well placed, and shows how he actually is learning and adapting to the situations at hand.
Where this series goes from here is now up-in-the-air to me; We still haven't seen the Knights of Ren, still need to know more about Rey, we need a new lightsaber. Based on the last few minutes, I don't think Episode IX will come directly after VIII, because there's clearly a need for the resistance/rebellion to grow again before they can stand up to the First/New Order. I'm hoping that IX takes us beyond what OT and TFA/TLJ showed us, and I'm genuinely looking forward to it.
Where this series goes from here is now up-in-the-air to me; We still haven't seen the Knights of Ren, still need to know more about Rey, we need a new lightsaber. Based on the last few minutes, I don't think Episode IX will come directly after VIII, because there's clearly a need for the resistance/rebellion to grow again before they can stand up to the First/New Order. I'm hoping that IX takes us beyond what OT and TFA/TLJ showed us, and I'm genuinely looking forward to it.
DarthLee
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Brent M
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Wow, I guess Mark Hamill is trying to cheer up Rian Johnson after he's been reading all of those fan reactions for the last 3 days. :lol
Seriously, though, in every interview I've seen with him Johnson genuinely seems like one of the nicest guys walking the face of the Earth so I do feel bad for him if he's in fact been reading/hearing all of the backlash, but at the same time I have to say it's all deserved because he made some truly baffling(and terrible) choices with this movie.
Seriously, though, in every interview I've seen with him Johnson genuinely seems like one of the nicest guys walking the face of the Earth so I do feel bad for him if he's in fact been reading/hearing all of the backlash, but at the same time I have to say it's all deserved because he made some truly baffling(and terrible) choices with this movie.
PantheraGem
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For me, the best scene of the movie, was seeing Chewie shine as a bad ass pilot in his own right. That was truly thrilling. I was wearing a mile-wide grin.
jcroscigno
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Nope - just liked it honestly. It's not ESB, and it's not the OT at all, but I was fine with the direction it went. I didn't put a lot of effort into speculating the storylines that could play out after TFA, so I had relatively few expectations. One thing I would have liked was some better resolution on Rey's background. Other than that - I thought it was fine.Are you employed by Disney?
J/K
Leia Poppins was probably the low point - but I would have been less happy if that was her exit from the series.
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