Jaitea
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And this is just one of the many reasons I love Mark Hamill so much!~
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And this is just one of the many reasons I love Mark Hamill so much!~
Yah, nice of him to rush to her rescue after throwing her under the bus.
So why does she have to quit social media all together? Cant she just block them or delete their comments? Im not big into social media, so Im not too familiar with how you block people etc. Seems kind of dramatic to quit just cause a couple of brain dead idiots. Its like letting the terrorists win. And like some of you have said, its Ruin Johnsons fault, not the actors. She just wanted a damn job in a Star Wars movie, which, before TLJ would have been a dream. Now...maybe not so much...
This, I am unaware of. When/how did Rian Johnson throw Kelly Marie Tran under the bus? Legitimate question.
I have zero problems with feminism in Star Wars.*
Heck - Princess Leia is a feminist ICON.
I was excited that Rey was going to be the new hero...
I just want a good story that respects my childhood heroes and understands the source material.
That's why I hate TLJ. It's just the most disrespectful, stupidly written thing I've ever seen.
* Feminism done right. The kind I grew up with in the '70s. The kind that empowered women without resorting to emasculating men.
So why does she have to quit social media all together? Cant she just block them or delete their comments? Im not big into social media, so Im not too familiar with how you block people etc. Seems kind of dramatic to quit just cause a couple of brain dead idiots. Its like letting the terrorists win. And like some of you have said, its Ruin Johnsons fault, not the actors. She just wanted a damn job in a Star Wars movie, which, before TLJ would have been a dream. Now...maybe not so much...
The difference is MASSIVE however.
Mr Rodgers hate mail, or anyone else's hate mail was the topic of national/international conversation/debate a grand total of what? 0 times in his life. Probably no more than acknowledging it existed.
Today, with the morons of the internet, it's blasted out to everyone on the planet where more and more morons pile on to the point it generates news articles and becomes actual news. Hell, you cannot filter it out of your life today whereas you very much could in the days of Mr Rodgers. Hire someone to go through the mail, save it all just in case, but the star never has to see it or deal with it. Today, sure, you can not look at it, but your friends will mention it to you, or photographers looking for a reaction, interviewers, etc. You can't avoid it completely.
Frankly, one of the smartest moves i've seen by an online site is MSN when they ditched comments on articles. It's completely unnecessary and feeds the problem.
And i'm sorry, but much like in school, when a couple people couldn't stop abusing a privileged, everyone lost it. I'm not saying shut down the internet, but maybe shutdown pointless comment sections and public crap
I'm curious as to how there's been emasculation in the current films. I haven't really seen it. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, the only thing that comes to mind is Holdo dressing down Poe, but even that I don't see as emasculation, as much as pulling rank. Make Holdo a dude and it's not emasculation at all. Nothing about his masculinity has been attacked; rather, his competence as a commander, and his entitlement to knowing the plan is attacked by a superior officer. But there's nothing in the exchange where she either emphasizes her femininity and superiority because of it as set against his masculinity. In essence, the only reason this entire exchange ends up coming across as emasculating....is because of the visual cues. Everything about Holdo's appearance is feminine. Everything about Poe stands in a masculine contrast to that. But it's just the visuals that are doing this.
Take Laura Dern in a coutoure dress with purple hair, and replace her with, say, Sam Elliot in a military uniform with a high-and-tight haircut, but leave the dialogue exactly the same, and you don't have any air of emasculation.
In other words, the only reason the entire exchange between the two comes across as "sexual politics" is simply because it's a very feminine looking woman talking down to a man to whom we've already given the title of "hero." That's it. It's "emasculating" because it's a woman telling a man to sit down and shut up, when if it were a man telling him exactly the same thing, nobody would bat an eye.
I'm not arguing whether there's emasculation or not at all, I agree with you. But I felt that the scenes with Holdo and Poe were oozing of sexual tension. At least Holdo looked interested in Poe whereas he was sort of a brick-head, not really noticing it and being too busy with his agenda. I totally expected the two of them to end up together. But then it just went with her "I like him" comment and that's it. Maybe I really just want someone to end up with someone else in these damn new Star Wars movies...:lol Felt similar with Rey and Finn in TFA that sort of fizzled out by the middle of the movie.I'm curious as to how there's been emasculation in the current films. I haven't really seen it. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, the only thing that comes to mind is Holdo dressing down Poe, but even that I don't see as emasculation, as much as pulling rank. Make Holdo a dude and it's not emasculation at all. Nothing about his masculinity has been attacked; rather, his competence as a commander, and his entitlement to knowing the plan is attacked by a superior officer. But there's nothing in the exchange where she either emphasizes her femininity and superiority because of it as set against his masculinity. In essence, the only reason this entire exchange ends up coming across as emasculating....is because of the visual cues. Everything about Holdo's appearance is feminine. Everything about Poe stands in a masculine contrast to that. But it's just the visuals that are doing this.
Take Laura Dern in a coutoure dress with purple hair, and replace her with, say, Sam Elliot in a military uniform with a high-and-tight haircut, but leave the dialogue exactly the same, and you don't have any air of emasculation.
This, I am unaware of. When/how did Rian Johnson throw Kelly Marie Tran under the bus? Legitimate question.
Again it illustrates just how markedly this film has divided the fandom who will be the primary buyers for this. These figures pretty much support a lot of what's gradually being recognised that TLJ significantly damaged the franchise.
Initial Blu Ray sales figures are now out. TLJ has sold 1,940,241 Blu Rays in 3 weeks of release. TFA sold 4,109,159 in it's first 3 weeks. It's a drop of $102 million to $45 million.
No, thats not it either. It was also announced that TLJ was going to be released on Netflix back in April so why buy it when most people have netflix anyway? Why pay over 20 bucks when you could watch it for "free"?No, it almost perfectly illustrates the average decline in physical media sales across the industry between those two years. (Also, that TLJ figure is for only the first week.)
No, thats not it either. It was also announced that TLJ was going to be released on Netflix back in April so why buy it when most people have netflix anyway? Why pay over 20 bucks when you could watch it for "free"?
Noticed a huge pile of DVD's and Blu-Rays at the store yesterday, seemed like there were few takers.
I admit I bought the DVD with the hopes of having my mind changed. I unwrapped the DVD, put it in the player, had my popcorn in hand, dogs were sitting beside me... I was ready! Change and blow my my mind! Let's do it!!!
Fell asleep about 20 min and woke to the ending credits. UGH...
The next night... I sat down ready to watch. Turned it off about 25-30 min in. The ONLY time I ever voluntarily turned off a SW film.
If I know anything about you, SofaKing, it's that you really want to love new Star Wars! So for you to hold these feelings--a mixture of antipathy and apathy--towards TLJ, is startling, and a huge indictment of the film's quality and place in Star Wars lore.
I feel the same way. I tried, on many occasions to see it a second time on the big screen, but I just could not drag myself to the theater. The DVD? Zero interest.
It's criminal. The low-SWIQ hacks responsible ought to be ashamed. But they are not.
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