Its cultural not every thing revolves around American entertainment and as I posted get Chow involved and they WILL be engaged
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Post-release)
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JD
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It's an odd thing, that's for sure. The top grossing movies in China is a weird mix of films, with 9 American movies in the top 20.
You might think that maybe sci-fi doesn't do well in China - well, Transformers, Avatar and Warcraft (!?!?) dispels that. I'm baffled at the success of The Fate of the Furious, Furious 7, Transformers and Warcraft... these are arguably bad movies (ok, I guess the Furious movies got decent reviews).
Is it about spectacle? Again, arguably the American movies on the list do showcase a lot of spectacle. But, then - doesn't Star Wars?
Does the weight of Star Wars being a long running franchise hold it back? Again, the Furious and Transformers films seem to prove that wrong.
The lack of Chinese actors doesn't seem to be any issue.
I'm sure there are people that have a lot more insight and knowledge about all this than we do that are just as stumped.
Master Boda
Sr Member
You know China had a ban on Disney films in the past and slowly are allowing them to be shown.Even the Disney Marvel movies had to be edited in order to be shown.From a certain point of view Disney is the enemy and most are to blind to see it.
Master Boda
Sr Member
I think in TLJ they went off the STAR WARS track and try to change the franchise,imagine if Indiana Jones no longer went after relics to put in a mueseum but rather to sell them on the black market,would you still look at Dr. Jones the same way?
JD
Master Member
Disney had a temporary ban from 1997-1999. This was due to a positive portrayal of the Dalai Lama. The ban was lifted after a Disney apology and the release of Mulan.
Most, if not all American films have some censorship involved in their Chinese releases.
Transformers, Fast & Furious are all relatively new to China as well.
Master Boda
Sr Member
DarthLee
Sr Member
I know so many of you are worried about the Chinese market. But it brings me to something I remember hearing or reading about, all those years ago, one of the few theaters that released ANH, was Grauman's Chinese Theatre, unless im mistaken. I know it does not represent the C market, but I thought it was humorous.
Rian addresses Luke's finale.
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/201...alkers-finale-in-star-wars-the-last-jedi.html
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/201...alkers-finale-in-star-wars-the-last-jedi.html
Thanks for posting.
It's amazing that the director has a take on the film that many here have been saying since the film was released. Although, now that Johnson has said as much, it will suddenly become an even MORE invalid argument than it was before.
Zuiun
Sr Member
If it were me, the last place I would hide the offspring of Anakin Skywalker is literally on his home planet in the care of his own relatives.
It's not like Star Wars has EVER made sense in that regard. However...
1. Luke did not create the map to the temple nor leave the map to find him. When Luke left, it was to find the temple. Therefore, the temple was the last known location where Luke might be. The map was to the temple, not Luke. No one knew for sure that he would be there, just strongly suspected it.
2.
Luke did not go there with the intent on marooning himself. He went there looking for answers and only after arriving and coming to the conclusion that the Jedi / Sith was a never-ending cycle did he decide to try to end the cycle by allowing the Jedi to die with him.
DarthLee
Sr Member
Then that confuses the whole R2 map story
But he left R2 with the map, and the whole R2 "turning back on"... he wanted to be found
JD
Master Member
It goes back prior to Disney's involvement in Star Wars.
Today is the day. We are going to see TLJ. I have avoided spoilers, this thread, the other threads almost completely. I know Luke is in it, there are some red royal guards, Leia prob dies and thats about it. Im going in cold, no spoilers, no preconcieved notions, no bad juju. I have medium expectations as a long time SW fan. TFA bugged me with its Disneyfication, but liked R1.
I really want to like it....lets see.
I really want to like it....lets see.
laszlo
Sr Member
Then what made him suddenly change his mind and that Rey was gonna continue the jedi? Was it Yoda's words of growing beyond masters etc.?
So what he learnt/ interpreted on the Island was totally unfounded or he was just a bit of an idiot?
DocWalker
New Member
That's actually wrong. Luke didn't leave R2 with anything before going into exile. R2 had obtained the last piece of the map from the records of the Empire while on board the first Death Star. That is the same piece of the map that Kylo said he had, as he also recovered it from the archives of the Empire. R2 overheard Rey while in his low-power mode (which R2 had put himself in after Luke went into exile) and searched his databanks and found it. While this is not readily addressed in the movie, it is addressed in the TFA novelization, which is canon as well.
DarthLee
Sr Member
So your telling me a have to read a "novelization" to understand this?. Damn, I was told there was no need to read extra stuff to explain visual stuff...I didnt get that memo
I dont remember having to read anything about the Hulk, to know about the Hulk. Ah well, let me get my glasses.
DocWalker
New Member
No, you don't have to read the TFA novelization to understand it. You can just read the Wookieepedia article on R2 or just Wookieepedia in general to find it out, as it provides that information regardless.
DarthLee
Sr Member
Ok Doc. I understand where your coming from,
I just have a slight problem with having to research MAIN PLOTS in a story, to understand. I dont remember having to go back and research ANH, to understand it. I read to carry on what was already planted.
Edit: Yes, I find that R2 having the final piece to Luke, or Jedi Temple, was a big mystery. It was a very interesting story or "plot"
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