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    Dec 7, 2017, 12:26 AM - Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #1

    Hey all,

    I've been slowly working on this since May and figured it was about time to create a WIP. I'm building Revell's 1/2256 Venator kit with fiber optics, lighted engines, and a scratch built hanger bay. I'm also using many 3d printed pieces from shapeways for the hangar, bridge, and engine exhaust patterns. This is my first real kit build (I did the Revell 1/4000 SD as a practice to learn airbrushing before this, but that doesn't really count), so comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

    So far I've drilled most of my holes for the FO and began to run the .25mm tonight. I have some .5mm to run, but I need to order the filament



    I've been playing with RGB LEDs to get the "right" blue for the FO (regular blue LEDs just don't do it for me ). I think I have gotten pretty close with this combination



    For the hanger I picked up some of the Oddysey Slipways Republic Gunships. I'm going to pick up some ARC 170's and troop transports soon to fill out the bay





    And for the bridge section, I've cut out the window portions which will be replaced with something to give the appearance of windows. I am going to try to cut some pieces on my brother's laser cutter to glue in place, but the little slits may be too small. I've seen other builds use printed transparencies and diffusion material, which could also work.

    The slits need some more cleanup




    Anyway, thanks for checking it out, comments/tips/tricks/suggestions are greatly appreciated!
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    Dec 7, 2017, 8:43 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #2

    Off to a good start
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    Dec 7, 2017, 11:25 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #3

    G’day @computergeek ,

    Took delivery of one of these myself awhile ago . Maybe my favourite vehicle / ship from the PT . Haven’t started on it yet , but having seen some terrific images of detailed ‘ lighted ‘ builds out there , I’m really looking forward to following a thread from the get go - before I get the opportunity to start on mine . Subbed !

    For the ‘ windows ‘ , maybe consider scribing one side of clear thin acrylic sheet - add a thin wash for frames / details , and lightly sand other side to obtain a diffused effect ( side facing in ) , all prior to carefully cutting out and positioning ?


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    Dec 8, 2017, 1:52 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #4

    Excellent, it's great to see people still enjoying this kit! I look forward to seeing how yours progresses, You're doing a lot of similar things to what I did on mine.
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    Dec 8, 2017, 3:11 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #5

    blakeh1 said: View Post
    Off to a good start
    Thanks! I'll keep this thread updated with progress. I don't get as much time as I'd like for modeling, so it may take awhile.


    gedmac66 said: View Post
    G’day @computergeek ,

    Took delivery of one of these myself awhile ago . Maybe my favourite vehicle / ship from the PT . Haven’t started on it yet , but having seen some terrific images of detailed ‘ lighted ‘ builds out there , I’m really looking forward to following a thread from the get go - before I get the opportunity to start on mine . Subbed !

    For the ‘ windows ‘ , maybe consider scribing one side of clear thin acrylic sheet - add a thin wash for frames / details , and lightly sand other side to obtain a diffused effect ( side facing in ) , all prior to carefully cutting out and positioning ?


    Ged
    Good idea on the windows! I'm hoping my lasercut styrene will work out to give the windows some depth, but if not, I'll give that a try!

    I definitely reccommend going on Shapeways and picking up some drop in replacement parts. The bridge especially looks much better than the original pieces.

    Here's engine inserts to get a good light effect when you install the LEDs

    https://www.shapeways.com/product/87...995&li=ostatus

    And here's the vendor that makes just about everything else-

    https://www.shapeways.com/shops/cosm...2256+Fleet&s=0

    You can go crazy on these upgrades if you want, I'm just sticking with the hangar bay, bridge, and engines.



    Darph Bobo said: View Post
    Excellent, it's great to see people still enjoying this kit! I look forward to seeing how yours progresses, You're doing a lot of similar things to what I did on mine.
    Thanks! Do you have a thread or pictures? I'd love to take a look!
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    Dec 8, 2017, 4:29 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #6

    I can do one up when I get home tonight
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    Dec 23, 2017, 11:51 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #7

    Darph Bobo said: View Post
    I can do one up when I get home tonight
    Thanks so much for your thread. Lots of useful info!!


    Small progress update, I've been adding some styrene panel greeblies to the top hull. Still have more to add but this is as much as I can do before the holidays and moving to a new apartment. I'll have a much better model space

    Happy holidays everyone!

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    Jan 24, 2018, 4:56 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #8

    computergeek said: View Post
    Thanks so much for your thread. Lots of useful info!!


    Small progress update, I've been adding some styrene panel greeblies to the top hull. Still have more to add but this is as much as I can do before the holidays and moving to a new apartment. I'll have a much better model space

    Happy holidays everyone!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a3676a077c.jpg

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    On this picture... What did you use to weather the model? It looks awesome!


    I'm happy to be crazy
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    Jan 24, 2018, 5:00 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #9

    Socrates11 said: View Post
    On this picture... What did you use to weather the model? It looks awesome!


    I'm happy to be crazy
    Oh, thats not weathering! I jumped the gun on painting and then was stripping it down because the model glue just globs up on acrylics.

    But its just acrylic paint stripped with rubbing alcohol and 800 grit sandpaper. You could probably replicate it by sanding down a light black coat over your base color.

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    Jan 24, 2018, 5:03 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #10

    computergeek said: View Post
    Oh, thats not weathering! I jumped the gun on painting and then was stripping it down because the model glue just globs up on acrylics.

    But its just acrylic paint stripped with rubbing alcohol and 800 grit sandpaper. You could probably replicate it by sanding down a light black coat over your base color.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
    The effect it created is freaking awesome I think... So cool that's a lot of times I noticed... When taking a lot of time it anytime just misses it.. but when rushing it some times it just gets perfect... Like this..
    It's not something for this ship but for other models/parts.

    I'm happy to be crazy
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    Jan 25, 2018, 2:31 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #11

    Socrates11 said: View Post
    The effect it created is freaking awesome I think...
    I second that.
    I have to admit... when I saw the picture my first thought was how much time and effort you must have put in to get that.
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    Mar 11, 2018, 4:07 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #12

    Any further updates coming soon ?
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    Mar 11, 2018, 10:47 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #13

    Yes, should have one for you tonight

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    Mar 11, 2018, 10:40 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #14

    Ok, sorry for the long time before an update... Was mostly doing the mundane work of running fiber optics. Thanks for asking gedmac66, it's nice to know people are looking at this build

    Anyway, here's how the main hull stands-

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    I don't even want to know how many fiber optic strands it ended up being.. And I have a few more to add to the hangars.

    Speaking of the hangars, I decided to cut the other one out and build an extended hangar/flight deck ala EA's Battlefront 2. Haven't made much progress scratch building, I need to draw everything out first!

    I bought some more of Odyssey Slipway's 1/2256 ships to go in the hangar/outside the ship. They're working on a Y-wing, but aren't sure if it's going to work out (given the tiny nature of the model). Just in case, I found a 3d model of a Y-wing on Thingiverse and printed it on my nice, new DLP printer (Wanhao Duplicator 7). It came out well for the tiny scale!

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    I primed a small part of the side to see how the fiber optics would look (to be sure it would work!), and I liked the effect!

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    Onto the engines- The 4 big engines have been painted. I used Vallejo Air Gunmetal with a light spritz of Vallejo Black Metal on top. Going to do some more weathering a bit later, but here's how they look now

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    I also got the shapeways engine inserts installed, they look great! Only took a pic of 2 of them, but they all have the insert

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    I did some work on the 2 tiny engines and found that a 1.5mm strand of FO filament "mushroomed" with a soldering iron did a great job for lighting effects-

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    Ok, now for the coolest part (and the reason I was waiting until tonight to post!). After trying a few different methods, I've finally been able to make decent window covers for the bridge window sections! I tried laser cutting .01" styrene, that either melted the whole area or didn't cut through, then I spent a few hours today playing with calibration settings on my printer to 3d print them. It's not quite as sharp as I'd like it to be, but I think its the best I'm going to get.

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    I don't think the printer is going to be able to produce a smaller one (for the other slits I cut), so I'm going to have to expand those to be the same size hole. I didn't want to do that, but I think its going to be the only way.

    Here's 2 more pictures of the model in its current state-

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    Next step- I think I'm finally ready to paint the main hull! Still need to assemble the other engines, wire the lighting, finish the bridge, but its coming along very nicely!

    I'm now on a timetable to finish this model.. I found out about Wonderfest about a month ago and have decided to make a "Republic Battle Group" diorama. I have a JPG Productions 1/2256 Acclamator to work on next, and a few Odyssey Slipways Light Republic Cruisers. I'll be doing some interesting things to light the engines on those, I'll definitely create a thread about it (or just add it onto this one!)


    Thank you all for reading, now to get back to work!
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    Mar 12, 2018, 3:03 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #15

    I'm not a fan of the episode 1-3 but i like these ships and your build inspired me :-) Think i shoud also buildt this one.
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    Mar 12, 2018, 8:00 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #16

    Haui said: View Post
    I'm not a fan of the episode 1-3 but i like these ships and your build inspired me :-) Think i shoud also buildt this one.
    Thanks! Its a really nice kit and there are lots of other builds I've been drawing inspiration from. The availability of drop-in replacement parts is cool too because they really make this kit shine!
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    Mar 12, 2018, 8:19 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #17

    Hey @computergeek ,

    Thanks for sharing your updates again , and no worries about asking - I’d subbed earlier on in Dec for purely research purposes !!!
    You know that saying about having ‘ eyes bigger than your stomach ‘ !? ... well that’s me !

    I’m in the middle of building a Deago MF , but I made the mistake of coming onto the RPF in between various stages of waiting for parts and parts to dry/cure with that , and that got me hooked/inspired by talented modellers to attempt some other builds ( ostensibly ) after completing the MF .
    Since late August ( 2017 ) I’ve managed to acquire a Revell Venator , Revell 1/4000 SD and Zvezda SD ... they’re all just sitting there on the shelf , waiting patiently for some TLC

    Getting back on topic - congratulations on securing your own 3D printer and printing out a cool windowframe replacement . Just a thought , regarding your plan to expand the other window areas because you won’t be able to print out a smaller framework for them .

    Although I’m still aways off from starting on my SD’s , I have been keeping an eye out for parts and components for them , and something I’ve come across as possible window frame replacements are the K&S diamond mesh at 1/8” for the larger section , and 5/64” for the smaller ones ... that’s if my original plan to hand scribe them on clear styrene falls flat !

    Anyhoo , looking forward to seeing more updates !

    Ged

    p.s. terrific tip regarding the lighting of the smallest engines ! Thanks .
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    Mar 12, 2018, 9:51 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #18

    Coming along nicely

    Those window frames look perfect!
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    Mar 12, 2018, 10:19 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #19

    gedmac66 said: View Post
    Hey @computergeek ,

    Thanks for sharing your updates again , and no worries about asking - I’d subbed earlier on in Dec for purely research purposes !!!
    You know that saying about having ‘ eyes bigger than your stomach ‘ !? ... well that’s me !

    I’m in the middle of building a Deago MF , but I made the mistake of coming onto the RPF in between various stages of waiting for parts and parts to dry/cure with that , and that got me hooked/inspired by talented modellers to attempt some other builds ( ostensibly ) after completing the MF .
    Since late August ( 2017 ) I’ve managed to acquire a Revell Venator , Revell 1/4000 SD and Zvezda SD ... they’re all just sitting there on the shelf , waiting patiently for some TLC

    Getting back on topic - congratulations on securing your own 3D printer and printing out a cool windowframe replacement . Just a thought , regarding your plan to expand the other window areas because you won’t be able to print out a smaller framework for them .

    Although I’m still aways off from starting on my SD’s , I have been keeping an eye out for parts and components for them , and something I’ve come across as possible window frame replacements are the K&S diamond mesh at 1/8” for the larger section , and 5/64” for the smaller ones ... that’s if my original plan to hand scribe them on clear styrene falls flat !

    Anyhoo , looking forward to seeing more updates !

    Ged

    p.s. terrific tip regarding the lighting of the smallest engines ! Thanks .
    Thanks, and about the photo etch- I saw that Darph Bobo had used some in his fantastic build (thread here, I see you commented on it so the link is really for others ), but the particular brand he used doesn't seem to be made any more. I can't seem to find the K&S stuff either, they seem to have discontinued their mesh line.

    I'd probably rather use photo etch over my printed parts, I just went my own route because I couldn't find stuff in stock. I see that Royal Models makes a diamond mesh, but I'm not sure it would fit right.

    On the models- I did a similar thing! I got the Venator around May of last year (my first model in years), and slowly descended down the rabbit hole. Now I have a respectable amount of kits waiting for me to build them!



    blakeh1 said: View Post
    Coming along nicely

    Those window frames look perfect!

    Thanks! I may revisit them to see if I can get the details sharper, but I think I'm happy for now!
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    Mar 12, 2018, 11:46 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #20

    Hey @computergeek ,

    In case you’re interested - and by no means am I implying anything else but , in case you are ...

    That etch @Darph Bobo used was sold through HLJ ( now discontinued ) , but I found it at ‘ acustion.net ‘ , under ‘ ATS - 7907 1/12 radiator panel ‘ . Not cheap though .

    K&S mesh can be found at ‘ Multifilla.com ‘ , under ‘ Photo etched mesh 1/8” diamond ‘ . They’ve got various sizes ranging from 1/8 - 3/64” (2 - 0.5mm) .

    Sorry I don’t know how to link . You’d type in what’s between the inverted commas .

    I’m in no way affiliated with these companies , just came across them after looking for replacement windows for my eventual Venator build that’s all .

    Ged

    p.s. Just found out that if you touch ( I’m using an iPad ) the multifilla info , it’ll take you to the website !? How’s that work ?
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    Mar 13, 2018, 9:17 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #21

    gedmac66 said: View Post
    Hey @computergeek ,

    In case you’re interested - and by no means am I implying anything else but , in case you are ...

    That etch @Darph Bobo used was sold through HLJ ( now discontinued ) , but I found it at ‘ acustion.net ‘ , under ‘ ATS - 7907 1/12 radiator panel ‘ . Not cheap though .

    K&S mesh can be found at ‘ Multifilla.com ‘ , under ‘ Photo etched mesh 1/8” diamond ‘ . They’ve got various sizes ranging from 1/8 - 3/64” (2 - 0.5mm) .

    Sorry I don’t know how to link . You’d type in what’s between the inverted commas .

    I’m in no way affiliated with these companies , just came across them after looking for replacement windows for my eventual Venator build that’s all .

    Ged

    p.s. Just found out that if you touch ( I’m using an iPad ) the multifilla info , it’ll take you to the website !? How’s that work ?


    Thanks for the Acustion link! I just ordered the 1/12 as well as some of the smaller ones (1/20, 1/24) to attempt to have different window sizes. Not sure when it will come in, hopefully in time for me to finish this before Wonderfest!

    I'm sure I will have extra left over if you or others wanted some. We can figure out shipping and such whenever I get it from Acustion.


    And as for the link, I think if you type in a web address, the forum will sometimes automatically create a hyperlink to that website.
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    Apr 4, 2018, 11:06 PM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #22

    Update time!

    Looking at Darph Bobo's thread, I decided to pick up a 1/700 WWII ship kit for greeblies. Found this one at my local hobby shop, and it had a lot of great parts! I greeblied up the bridge, adding in some detail that was missing from the base kit.

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    I got my photoetch panels in! Using my photoetch snips, I cut out a few rows of windows and attached them to the bridge. I used the 1/12 for the long parts at the bottom, and 1/20 for the others.

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    For the actual bridge pieces, instead of trying to paint the tiny windows and hoping the LED doesn't bleed through, I'm going to use the 1/24 photoetch as the windows. Here's a quick test-

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    Chugging right along. I tried to paint the top and bottom hulls, but ended up spilling paint on both of them.. One of them was an airbrush issue and one was just me being dumb. Anyway, I'm working on stripping those again, priming, and painting. For my hull color, I think I am going to try a blend of Vallejo Pale Blue Grey and Vallejo Insignia White. The Pale Blue Grey is just a bit too dark for my taste, but it should work well as a panel accent color.
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    Apr 5, 2018, 1:45 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #23

    Hey @computergeek , those window frames are looking sweet ! . Thanks for sharing this update .
    Were they as difficult to cut / trim as @Darph Bobo mentioned awhile ago over on his build thread cause they’re sturdier than regular photo etch , material - wise ?

    Those 1/700 greeblies do enhance the bridge towers , are you planning to judiciously plant more around the entire vessel ?
    I’ve purchased some assorted 1/350 & 1/700 scale photo etch for ships from HLJ ( they were on sale ) , and plan to get a few 1/1200 scale battleships ( greeblies ) for my ( eventual ) Venator & Zvezda SD kit builds as well .

    That image in pic #5 , recall you mentioning 3D parts - is that one for the bridge ( top ) section ? Asking cause it looks ( hard to tell from angle of pic ) like it’s a transparent copy of one I’ve seen on Shapeways . That scale etch looks terrific as window frames for those smaller sections too !

    Ged

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    Apr 5, 2018, 7:01 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #24

    Those windows look perfect

    I also like the added details from the 1/700 ships
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    Apr 5, 2018, 8:56 AM - Re: Revell 1/2256 Venator WIP #25

    gedmac66 said: View Post
    Hey @computergeek , those window frames are looking sweet ! . Thanks for sharing this update .
    Were they as difficult to cut / trim as @Darph Bobo mentioned awhile ago over on his build thread cause they’re sturdier than regular photo etch , material - wise ?

    Those 1/700 greeblies do enhance the bridge towers , are you planning to judiciously plant more around the entire vessel ?
    I’ve purchased some assorted 1/350 & 1/700 scale photo etch for ships from HLJ ( they were on sale ) , and plan to get a few 1/1200 scale battleships ( greeblies ) for my ( eventual ) Venator & Zvezda SD kit builds as well .

    That image in pic #5 , recall you mentioning 3D parts - is that one for the bridge ( top ) section ? Asking cause it looks ( hard to tell from angle of pic ) like it’s a transparent copy of one I’ve seen on Shapeways . That scale etch looks terrific as window frames for those smaller sections too !

    Ged

    p.s. PM sent
    They weren't that hard to cut, but I used a brand new pair of these photoetch snips from Amazon. They weren't cheap, but they cut really well.

    I think I'm done with the greeblies. I'm running low on parts from the donor kit, and I'm pretty happy with the way things look. I'm going to take a look once everything is primed.

    I need to find a decent sale on these donor kits. I paid way too much for that kit to just use it for greeblies

    That is the bridges from Shapeways printed in frosted extreme detail. I had planned to meticulously paint the tiny window frames that were printed in the model, but as I was brushing on primer, I realized the 1/24 photoetch would work well. The only issue is it won't be "inset" into the bridge, it will wrap around the outside, but for the scale it should look fine. And sorry for the bad pic, I was trying to get the camera to see the windows without making them a giant glare!


    blakeh1 said: View Post
    Those windows look perfect

    I also like the added details from the 1/700 ships

    Thanks! The photoetch really has a sharpness that my printed windows were lacking. And the fact that I have smaller window options is a plus!

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