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    Nov 3, 2017, 8:45 AM - Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #1

    This thread is just an area for me to place descriptions and photos of my Blade Runner (2019) movie prop replica builds.
    I'm not trying to start a convo, that's for other threads. I'm just listing my stuff as I research, source, build, upgrade and replace it, so it's all in one place and I can refer back to it as time goes by and my memory becomes unreliable.


    I've always loved science-fiction movies. I love to imagine a future filled with space travel and flying cars and intelligent machines where I may one day live. Part of the fascination has always been the 'hardware' and from all the on-screen gadgetry the things that always seem to stand out (since most sf movies are American) are weapons. As a teenager I was lucky enough to live in a small sea-side town with two good cinemas; a little independent theatre and a large town-centre 'palais'. Myself and my school friends would gather at the little theatre for the Saturday afternoon matinee and watching movies on a big screen became an important part of my life. Usually the movies were low-budget pulp science-fiction flicks with lots of clunky ray guns and really dodgy special effects. Superman and Star Wars raised the bar for effects (if not acting) but it was still mostly brightly coloured 70's-80's pulp sci-fi on offer. Then one weekend in 1982, at the age of 17, I saw a new sf pic that changed everything. The effect it had on me was profound. I went to see it again the following Monday, and again on Tuesday and again on Wednesday. The last time I remember it was just the theatre manager and me in the place and we discussed the themes and issues of the story at length during the presentation (don't you just hate it when people talk during the film?). The movie in question was Blade Runner and it has stayed with me throughout adulthood (and all the revised versions) as the best science fiction movie ever made. I've also owned it on home taped Beta-Max video, commercial VHS tape, DVD and blu-ray, and I've seen it so many times I can recite every word of the script by heart (yeah, I also own a couple of the original scripts from 1981). If memory serves it was first broadcast on British TV around 1985/6 and not a single year has passed since then where I haven't watched it at least once.


    Today I'm in my 50's and my hobby is building screen-accurate movie prop replicas (usually guns) so it seems natural that Blade Runner replicas will form the heart of my display. Unlike some lucky prop replica builders who have access to a 'machine shop' I just have an ordinary home-maintenance tool set and I really don't like pieces with no functionality, painted 'faux' finishes on resin casts or 3D printed plastic. I should also point out that whilst screen-accuracy is important to me it is not the MOST important thing. None of my friends are movie geeks like me and no-one who sees my display will ever point out that I have the wrong grip pattern or the wrong screw-head on a replica.

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    As you read the following build-logs you may notice I always refer to the Blade Runner guns as pistols, never as 'blasters'. I really wish everyone would stop calling these guns blasters. Blasters in sf literature are almost always projected-energy weapons (for instance all the Star Wars guns are called 'blasters') and the Deckard gun is an old-fashioned slug-thrower, even if some of the rounds it fires are very specialised loads. You wouldn't call 'Dirty Harry's .44 magnum a blaster, it's a a revolver, and let's not forget that under the 'dieselpunk' cladding Deckard's gun is a .44 special revolver!

    Right, here we go!
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    Nov 3, 2017, 9:01 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #2

    Rick Deckard's Steyr Pistol; 'hero' version (Sidkit #1). SOLD JANUARY 2017

    The first thing any Blade Runner fan wants to own is Rick Deckard's Steyr pistol and I'm no different. This gun is a movie icon like no other. Thought lost for over twenty years, the one and only hero prop was found at the World-Con convention in 2006 by Karl Tate and as a result of his extensive pictures and measurements we now have some excellent replicas to build and covet. My Steyr is an all-metal replica by the late Siderio Germaino, a Sidkit. It has the full working functions; moving slide, swing-out cylinder, working trigger, hammer and ejector. It's been lightly blued and lightly weathered to resemble the hero prop in the condition it was when filming finished. The five red LEDs on the lower magazine all work as per the real prop but I have not wired up the two green 'sight-rod' LEDs as they were never shown illuminated in the movie (or were they?). I also added some .44 dummy rounds, again these were never shown in the movie but it helps add weight and I like heavy guns. The barrel is a turned steel replacement which was originally intended for a Japanese Tomenosuke replica but fits the Sid'. It was made about four years ago in the US by 'propsmith' Dave and came to me via about 4-5 previous owners.

    I really like these kits and recently compared my World-Con Sidkit to a 2015 Coyle C&S (claimed by you-know-who as the best and most accurate replica on the market) and I'm really glad I spent a few hundred on a Sidkit instead of well over a thousand on a Coyle. The casting of the Sid' is much cleaner and sharper than the Coyle. Sidkits can sometimes be a bit loose and rattly (apparently a dab of nail varnish in the screw holes will fix this) but the finished pieces are really impressive. This particular one was created in Italy from the original molds after Sid's death in 2009, by his business partner Michelle Possanza, and came loosely-assembled in two packages with just final fitting, wiring, bluing and weathering to do. I used ordinary car polish over the grips and when it dried I wiped off the excess to leave the 'World-Con' residue and ordinary Humbrol modeling enamels to add the black patterning to the bottom of the grip butt-plate. My bluing of the receiver is a little patchy but I think that's due more to the nature of the pewter amalgam than my technique which followed the instructions of several members of the replica prop forum who have had great success with these products. I see this build as a 'homage' to the genuine prop as it exists today and as a practice piece for the day I can build a real-parts replica with a genuine Charter-Arms frame, custom machined grip frame & cylinder shells and a real Steyr Mannlicher receiver.

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    Nov 3, 2017, 9:19 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #3

    Rick Deckard's Steyr Pistol; 'hero' version (Sidkit #2).

    This is the second metal Sidkit I have completed. It's the same 'recent' Italian casting as my first gun except this one came with a metal magazine & housing rather than the, actually more accurate, plastic version. Like my first Sid' this one has the full working functions to resemble the hero prop. I made a few extra modifications for accuracy too. I added a genuine Steyr rifle-scope pivot screw in place of the infamous Weaver knob on the right-side cylinder casing, cut down to just the head as the main part of the bolt is too thick to go in the hole and I don't want to start drilling into the pewter frame or tapping threads. This is a static replica so as long as it looks right and it's all metal I'm happy. I also swapped the replica 'binding post' on the same side for a genuine WW2 field telephone binding-post which was expensive but does look very good and has the correct amount of 'groove' showing under the end cap just as on the genuine hero prop. Finally I changed the perforated pewter barrel that came with the kit for a turned steel one made by rpf member 'Teddz'. When doing my final assembly I added a small drop of my favourite '2-tonne epoxy' glue behind the barrel end, as well as in all the screw holes, to ensure this PKD is rattle-free. My previous Sidkit became a little loose as handling took it's toll on the pewter castings and I do like to play with my toys. A little Turtle-Wax polish on the grips allowed to dry then wiped off leaves a little whitish residue on the plastic grips and the black on the grip frame, butt-plate and cylinder shells is from my old Humbrol enamel tin again.

    As with my previous build the green LED's in the sight rod were not actually connected to the battery because they are not shown illuminated in the movie and they can be removed without damage should I ever decide to change that. The dummy .44 magnum rounds which fitted so neatly in my original Sid were just a hair too tight to fit the cylinder on this one. Probably a different batch of metal with a slightly higher shrinkage rate than the first one I built three years ago. The easiest fix is to use .357 shells instead. No one will ever know, unless you tell them. The final thing to do was to run over the bluing with a felt polishing pad on my Dremel to add highlights and emulate years of handling and this has given some nice contrast to the finish although I may have been a little over-zealous on a few areas (such as the bolt lever).

    With the build completed I visited my friend in Plymouth who owns the Coyle to show him my progress and swap build-stories. He's the only other person in my part of the world, that I know of, with a PKD obsession like me and he's recently come into possession of an unbuilt Coyle kit to add to his 2015 C&S version. All I can say is that, having seen and held the Coyle in built and unbuilt form, I am increasingly impressed by the quality of the Sidkit. They are straight and true with fine, crisp etched details and no bubbles or voids to fill. My buddy has his work cut out for him to make the Coyle look as impressive as the Sid' I proudly waved under his nose.

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    Nov 3, 2017, 9:54 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #4

    I have the day off today so, apart from starting and filling this thread, I have done a bit of ‘modding’ on my Sid’. I started by dismantling the front end because the magazine was drooping at its leading edge. The back is screwed down beside the trigger guard but the front has very little ‘edge’ to hang onto so I dug out something I’ve had for a while in my box marked ‘PKD SPARES’ - a genuine Steyr Mannlicher .222 rifle magazine and mag housing. This one was made in 2015 and is laser-engraved with a date on the flat left flank. Obviously they didn't do this in the 1980's but I kinda like it. If this was 'in-universe' it would mean this was a four year old gun in the movie timeline of November 2019.

    I tried the Sidkit magazine, with it’s LEDs and battery, in the Mannlicher housing and it was about 1mm too long at the back end. Luckily pewter amalgam is soft enough to file down easily. With the illuminated mag fitted tightly I filed the housing to mate the steel barrel diameter at the top edge and screwed it home but not before cleaning the receiver with Brasso. This actually took a lot more of the bluing off than I expected so I just went for it. I now have a 'variant' version, with a date-stamped mag housing and polished receiver. It looks cool and I’m very happy with the new look.

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    EDIT;
    I found some short lengths of white 'bell' wire in the shed so decided to add this to my gun to emulate the wires found on the hero. The genuine wires are a little thinner than mine, and not quite so bright-white. They also run on the outside and inside of the cylinder cover with a split half way down. The real Steyr mag housing I'm using is a little shorter than the Sidkit replica along the top/barrel edge so there’s a natural gap where the barrel/frame join can be seen. I can twist two wires together then insert the ends here, with a small dab of glue, then feed them down inside the housing’s trailing edge and under the magazine. I know it’s not the screen accurate path for the wires but because it's a real mag housing on a replica frame I have some tightness/clearance issues with the opening cylinder and having them run over the outside edge would tighten everything up when I try to access the cylinder so I’m working with what I got.


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    Apart from a slightly loose front trigger, which I will fix with a dab of UHU, that's about all I'm doing to this gun and now that I have this thread established, and the decks clear, I can start on my next project;

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    EDIT: Then I dropped it! I was tidying my display shelf to get a newly acquired Safex ash-tray on and the Sid' fell nose-first onto the hardwood floor. It took a nice big chunk out of the upper receiver front end-cap. It also took a chunk out of the floor which annoyed my wife. Anyway, after I calmed down and took stock of the damage I've decided to keep as it is, with the chipped front end cap and relate the condition of the gun on display to a specific scene; the damage in my piece is going to be the damage caused when Leon smacks the gun from Deckard's hand in the street, before Rachael picks it up and 'retires' him.
    And we move on...

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    Nov 3, 2017, 10:59 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #5

    wow, beautiful work, thank you for sharing. looking forward to your future thread updates!
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    Nov 3, 2017, 11:15 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #6

    The Tomen + CAW Bulldog is such a match made in heaven. You did a great job on those Sids! Eager to see more
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    Nov 3, 2017, 11:49 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #7

    Great thread
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    Nov 3, 2017, 12:41 PM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #8

    Wow! Your blasters look great!










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    Nov 3, 2017, 3:12 PM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #9

    great collection so far, but didn't expect less from the blade runner guy
    hey, I have a really stupid question and I hope this will not offend, the "CAW bulldog" is also a replica made the same way that the Tomen no? I was wondering what was the point in converting that to a blaster, it's the same parts no? is it for the fun of trying to convert the trigger guard and all that to feel what it would be like with a real gun or something like that? again, sorry, I don't intend it as a critic or anything and I might not have used the appropriate words, but it's just out of curiosity.

    looking forward to see more of your collection mate
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    Nov 3, 2017, 8:55 PM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #10

    I had one of the original run of Baccarat crystal bottles a few years ago but had to let it go when finances demanded (that's it in the first picture at the top of this thread, next to my first completed Sidkit). I regret that decision so I've kept a close eye on the eBay listings and even missed a couple of pieces by a few pounds because they were overseas auctions ending in the middle of the night. Then Sarednab announced a final small run of plain glass bottles from the original mold which was used for the crystal version. Unfortunately the price was still high and so once again I had to let it pass. Then Sarednab offered me the chance to have an 'imperfect' where the thickness of the glass wall was not consistent and varied from thick at the base to thin at the top. I could afford this one so I snatched it up and asked my youngest son to buy me a Cibi tumbler for Christmas, which he did, cheers Tom! (He's 24 and earns more than me so I don't feel at all guilty asking for such a nice gift).

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    Nov 3, 2017, 9:32 PM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #11

    You can also special order triple cap rounds for that model!


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    Nov 6, 2017, 4:34 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #12

    APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE - THIS IS A LONG POST WITH NO PICTURES!

    I recently started a thread here on the rpf, to which a few people contributed, where I asked how many different versions of the Deckard Steyr pistol there could be. Obviously the gun has been through several changes and 'incarnations' over it's life, from newly-built by the propmaster/gunsmith before the start of shooting in 1981, through revisions to the magazine and the butt-plate groove for Harrison Ford's comfort, to removal of bluing to achieve better contrast on-screen, to the way it was when found in 2006 and the restoration in 2009, right up to the way it is today, in the collection of Dan Lannigan. There are also a few non-canon variations such as Syd Mead's concept, in-universe as-new and stylised 'ghost' versions. Through that thread & convo I eventually settled on my ideal display set of Steyr pistols;

    #1 - screen-accurate hero, weathered (Sidkit World-Con)
    #2 - as-newly issued to Deckard (fully-built Tomenosuke through HCG)
    #3 - screen accurate stunt, rubber with amber grips (Tomenosuke 2015)
    #4 - ghost-style (Tomenosuke 2049 kit version with blank-firing CAW frame)
    #5 - real-parts (from deactivated Charter Arms / Steyr Mannlicher parts with custom machined over-build)

    Guns 1-4 are already taken care of, in that I either already own completed replicas, am in the process of building one, or have parts on order to do so. Those will be listed in this thread in due course. That just leaves number 5...

    December 6th 2017. I've been thinking about my prop-building for the coming year. It's an annual ritual for me to sit and plan what I want to achieve in the next 12 months with my hobby. I 'turn-over' props fairly regularly so I looked at my current Blade Runner display and tried to work out which props I still wanted to build but it turns out I have pretty much run through my wish-list of BR props (would you believe that, including a couple of water-pistols, I have had 14 Blade Runner pistols in the past five years). There is a long list of BR props I could build or collect but as I ran through the list I found nothing that I really wanted (although I would like a full-size hero Vid-Phon but that's not something I have room for this year). So, what should I build in the coming year? Well, there's only one BR prop I really still covet but it's something so rare, expensive and fraught with both technical, engineering and legal difficulty I never even considered it might be achievable; a REAL Steyr Blade Runner pistol.

    Although the love of my life (after my wife and kids obviously) is Blade Runner, and especially Deckard's Steyr pistol, I got a little side-tracked a while back and ended up spending nearly two years obsessively collecting parts to build a 'genuine real-parts' Star Wars ep.4 Obi-Wan light saber with real WW1 and WW2 components such as rifle-grenades and Rolls Royce jet engine parts (which now resides in California) so, if I can do that there’s no reason to think I can’t do the same for Deckard's pistol too. Several people in the US have built live-fire versions but obviously that's never going to happen in the UK where all live handguns are banned. I am allowed to buy deactivated firearms quite legally though and, unlike the US where deactivation involves cutting the gun into several large chunks with a plasma torch, we actually have quite reasonable rules here. The firing pin & striker face are ground off and a hardened steel rod is welded down the barrel along with a 'washer' inside the cylinder for revolvers so that rounds can't be chambered. This isn't unreasonable in my opinion and these days you still get to have a nice 'clicky' dry-fire action and none of the changes can be seen from outside. Also the number of rare and expensive parts in the Deckard pistol is about the same as I needed for the Obi-Wan saber and my rough calculations put the price for the completed gun at about the same amount as the saber too (£2-2.5k). I know if I make the decision to build one it's going to be the start of a long, complicated and expensive journey but I think I have to give it a go. I will kick myself in years to come if I don't at least try. There is an obvious deadline for this project too; November 2019. The date for the setting of the original movie. That's under two years from now. I have to believe it's possible with my hugely variable self-employed income in that time-frame. A few posts back eethan referred to me as "the Blade Runner guy" and it struck me then just how obsessed I must be to earn such an epithet, (of my 600 posts on the rpf about 500 have been Blade Runner related) and to try something this ambitious here in the UK.

    In order to build the Deckard pistol I will need the following components;
    Steyr Mannlicher Model SL .222rem rifle, deactivated
    Charter Arms .44spl. Bulldog revolver, model 34431, deactivated
    Custom-machined steel barrel, cylinder covers, grip frame, butt-plate, sight-rod & trigger guard
    Weaver 344 or 29a telescopic-sight windage knob
    WW2 EE-8 radio-telephone battery binding post
    Smith & Wesson early K-frame trigger
    Custom-cast amber resin grips

    December 14th 2017. After several days of online searching and emails to deactivated gun dealers I found that the Charter-Arms Bulldog does not appear to be available anywhere in the UK (I've been keeping a weather-eye open for a Bulldog for the last two years or so and in that time I have seen two in .38 calibre but NO .44 versions at all). However, despite the fact that I thought all hand-gun import was strictly forbidden here it turns out I was wrong. This came to light because I saw that this year the Propstore of London offered "Biff Tannen’s Smith & Wesson model 60 revolver from Back To The Future II" for sale and are listed it as being available in the USA as a live gun or in the UK deactivated, "if transferred through the Registered Firearms Dealer network and deactivated upon arrival". Well if Propstore can import a revolver into the UK, which is a banned 'section-5' firearm, for deactivation then surely there's no reason I can't do it too. It should just be a matter of finding a sympathetic RFD with contacts in the US for sourcing the correct model and a Section-5 import licence. Obviously I will have to pay through-the-nose for expert services and all the legal paperwork, which is a shame but there's no other way as I wouldn't know where to start with official permission to do something like this. Well it seems it may now actually be possible. After a brief internet search I found a Section-5 approved firearms importer who claimed to be able to source and import revolvers to the UK legally. I also found, after only ten minutes searching, several classic Charter-Arms .44spl Bulldog revolvers for sale at gun dealers in the US. I decided to put these two discoveries together and see what happens!

    Just to reassure everybody - I plan to follow all applicable laws and regulations with regard to firearms handling and modification. Deactivated firearms are legal to own in the UK for anyone over the age of 18 but there are restrictions. For instance, you are not allowed to physically modify a deact', which means cutting off the 'blocked' barrel is illegal. This would be seen by the law as an attempt to 're-activate a de-activated firearm' and in the UK this carries a mandatory five year prison sentence. Coming from a Police family I have a great respect for rules and regs which protect us all so this is an interesting conundrum. After spending several weeks thinking long and hard about this I have come up with a plan of action which should allow me to have a 'new' steel barrel and remain within the law; I plan to file off the front sights on the revolver and then 'sleeve' the Bulldog barrel with a custom-machined steel tube. The rear will be machined out to fit snugly over the old barrel and the front will be machined to look like the BR barrel. I can either use the threaded mounting screw-holes on the front of the new barrel to hold it in place, like on a Tomenosuke upgrade barrel, or I can epoxy it over the Bulldog barrel permanently. If it's done right no-one will ever be able to tell the original barrel is still inside and uncut.


    Vintage Steyr Mannlicher .222 SL rifles are just 'a little bit' more common than Bulldog revolvers but I learned a really good lesson when I built my real-parts light saber and that is; get the RAREST part first! If you buy all the easy-to-obtain parts you may hit a brick wall with the really rare parts and the project may stall, which can be so disheartening you may never get started again. If I bought a Mannlicher SL, but was unable to ever source a Bulldog, then my gun would have to use a replica (plastic) Tomenosuke or CAW frame and would never, in my eyes, be 'real'. I see suitable vintage Mannlicher SL rifles two or three times a year online for sale and the price varies anywhere between £800-1,200 so I think it's best to go after the Bulldog first as it's almost unheard of in the UK. If I manage to get one of those then the whole project is a 'go' and I can just enjoy the rest of the build process for as long as it takes to get it done right.

    December 18th 2017. I received a reply from the Section-5 import guys;

    "A specific Charter Arms .44 spl would have to be sourced in the US (usually around $350-400) and this must be through a dealer who is happy to obtain all the relevant export papers in the US ($50), and be fully responsible for export-shipping to the UK ($100). The UK import agent - that's us - would need to apply for an individual Section-5 firearms import licence (£80) for the gun in question and then attend, in-person, (£150) the physical act of importation-collection at the UK bonded facility when it arrives here, and provide secure transport to a gunsmith for deactivation (£100) followed by transport to the approved proof house (£50) for certification (£40). The particular airline that is used to transfer the gun can affect the cost quite considerably also (often £300+). The costs on this side of the Atlantic in order to merely clear customs could be in the region of £600."

    Not sure if he means that the £600 includes all the licences and airline or whether that's just the customs fee when it hits London but a worst-case reading puts the cost of importing an old revolver with a retail value of around £350 at around £1300 in the UK plus $500 in the states. What all this means is that if I intend to go ahead with this build I'm going to have to raise some serious coin to make it happen. Time to head over to the junkyard with some of my collection. I think I'm going to sell my original, and early copy, Blade Runner scripts, and maybe my Microma, to fund the importation process in the spring.

    Updates will be posted

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    Nov 6, 2017, 4:37 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #13

    Rick Deckard's Steyr Pistol; 'rubber stunt' version (Tomenosuke)

    A couple of years ago Tomenosuke did a limited-edition black rubber stunt gun. It was the version of the gun when it was first molded to make stunt copies, before the LED's and switch were inserted into the Steyr magazine and before the 'pinky groove' was cut into the butt-plate for Harrison Ford's fingers. This is the pistol held by Deckard in the scene where Pris kicks the gun from hi
    s hand as he searches Sebastian's apartment where she's hiding under a sheet. A rubber gun would have been used so Daryl Hannah didn't break her foot kicking it. At the time of release I was between jobs and couldn't afford one and since the edition was small I was resolved to never owning one but one popped up online for sale and there were no other bidders...

    My original plan was to re-create the gun Harrison Ford held during that stunt. The stunt-gun on display in the Science Fiction Museum in Seattle could well be the one from that scene. The available reference pictures show it has amber grips glued onto it. Unfortunately when I attacked the rubber gun with my craft knife I found the grips were moulded on. The seams were so crisp it looked like a seperate piece on each side but no, not actually. Oh well, this one will just have to look like the all-black 'patrolman' versions from the background characters.

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    Nov 6, 2017, 4:41 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #14

    Rick Deckard's holster; 'hero' version.

    It was the legendary Phil Steinschneider who did all the work tracking down the actual holster used by the Blade Runner production so we must give him all the credit for having accurate copies available to us these days. He discovered, after years of searching, that the hip-holster used by Deckard and the shoulder holster worn by Captain Bryant were both made by Safariland in California. The model 1001 was produced for less than two years so it was only by buying dozens of old holsters and hundreds of old catalogues that the actual piece was finally identified. The Bryant holster eventually resurfaced at auction and it was a Safariland 1001, plus a 'stunt' holster/pistol combo which I think is now on display at the science-fiction museum in Seattle (set up by Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft). The Bryant shoulder and Deckard stunt holsters were both confirmed as right-handed model 1001 shoulder holsters for 5" S&W revolvers with the Deckard holster cut down for belt mounting. New part numbers were stamped on the back by the factory - model 2000 - so both are totally unique.

    So on to my own holster. Phil still finds the occasional Safariland 1001 out in the wild and I got this one directly from him. This holster was made for a 10" Ruger revolver so as well as having it's 'ears' removed like the Deckard hero holster it also needs it's bottom trimmed to achieve the correct length. I decided that, with the help of online leatherworking videos, I would try to tackle the mods myself rather than handing it over to an expert. I started by getting loads of reference pictures of the hero holster on-set and a plastic water-pistol PKD to use as a 'buck' for the final forming process. I bought a leather bradawl and some waxed linen thread to match the colour used by Safariland then marked where I thought should be trimmed with a soft pencil. I will trim the leather hide to shape and use my 'junior' hack-saw to cut through the solid plastic front spine/spacer piece.

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    Looking at these pictures I’m surprised this ever got made. Even in the land of the handgun! Who would ever use a revolver with a barrel that long? I think if you turned up with a holster that length people would just assume you were “over-compensating for something”.
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    Nov 6, 2017, 5:15 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #15

    Dave Holden's Steyr Pistol; live-fire 'ghost' (Tomenosuke 2049/CAW Bulldog).

    I have always wanted to see more of the gun that Holden tries to pull when he's attacked by Leon at the start of Blade Runner. Because in the scene Holden gets blown through an office partition by Leon's four-barrel derringer, actor Morgan Paull would have been holding a 'stunt' gun; a rubber cast of the 'hero' prop. I have a screen-capture from the film which shows the moment Holden pulls his gun and the light from in front of the camera reflects off the sight-rod and the top of the receiver. You can clearly see a casting line down the centre of the receiver but at no point can any colour be seen on or around Holden's hand so the grips were almost certainly NOT transparent amber like the hero pistol wielded by Harrison Ford. That's all the excuse I need! You see I think Dave Holden, with his sharp suit and immaculate hair, would have 'pimped' his Police-issue sidearm a little. He was a stylish guy and he would have wanted everyone to know it (even a 'skin-job' he was about to retire!) so I'm going to create that pimped gun and call it 'Holden's Ghost'. This build is dedicated to the Late Morgan Paull who died too young and deserved more screen-time.

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    Apart from a long-standing desire to build Holden's gun I have also wanted to do some sort of live-fire version so I thought; why not combine the two? Here in the UK all handguns are banned, which is good, but I can legally buy plug-fire cap guns, blank firers and functional metal airsoft replicas. RPF member 'Veektohr' discovered the frame sizes on the Tomenosuke Pro-Retail and the plug-fire Bulldog revolver from Craft Apple Works in Japan were exactly the same. He made a blank-firing hybrid CAW/Tomenosuke pistol which looked fantastic and fired 2x7mm blanks. I was so impressed by his build I decided to do the same conversion myself. Although not having a VCRA-defense for buying 'realistic imitation' firearms in the UK would normally mean I have to have one that's painted bright orange I managed to acquire the necessary 'realistic' version of the .44 Bulldog revolver from a film & TV weapon supply company using an interesting delivery loop-hole (which I will keep to myself, so don't ask, as I'm not sure of the legality). I was also able to get the assembly-kit version of the new Tomenosuke 2049 issue in July '17, directly from Mune-san in Japan and ordered a new barrel from rpf member 'Teddz' in polished stainless steel!

    With two guns to combine, upgrade parts, cast metal 'finishing' and all the safety aspects of the blank-firing base this is my most involved build so far and I aim to take my time and do it justice. The CAW pfc revolver doesn't need a huge amount of modification but it does need some fiddly work around the bottom of the frame, adding the second trigger, which involves splitting the grip and internals out of the frame so naturally I started with something else - cutting off the barrel with a hacksaw and filing down the mounting face for the metal replacement. I made a start with the hacksaw but found there was a lot more steel reinforcing inside than I expected so after labouring at it for a few minutes I tentatively tried to bend the remaining part out only to find the whole barrel coming away from the mounting face in one piece. Turns out it was only a tight press-fit after all and I needn't have bothered with the sawing...

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    I decided the final 'look' for this gun should be solid black through the middle with light/clear/silver/polished parts on top and bottom. So I'm polishing the upper-receiver to go with the stainless barrel and give a strong silver upper. The black plastic magazine housing is very
    clean and I will polish this further to remove any moulding lines or flashing. The cylinder covers will be polished first before I decide whether or not to paint them. I've done some research and a lot of people seem to change the LED colour on 'ghost' builds to blue instead of red but that's a step too far for me (and Holden) and I think the standard red lighting goes very well with the black/silver theme.

    The nice thing about building my gun with a CAW pfc base and Tomenosuke kit is that I get a custom-finished pistol in exactly the same quality as a factory pre-built gun BUT with 'ghost' styling and 'live-fire' capability for about the same price as a second-hand HCG Pro-Retail off eBay. I also have a load of spare parts to use in other builds or sell. What's not to like?

    Being a 'kinda' live-fire version means in order to load it up with blanks and fire it without someone calling the Police I need to visit a real gun range. Since all handguns are banned in the UK (good!) the only option here is a 'clay-pigeon shooting' range on the coast near me where you can fire shotguns, at clay targets, out to sea. Now I can't really carry something this realistic in public so in order to get to the range the pistol and cartridges will needs a carrying box. Since the gun will have custom styling I'm going to make a custom-styled carrying case, from a Pelican camera box, and taking my inspiration from Rick Ross because I have seen his version of a tactical carrying case and it is magnificent. I will of course do this in full Blade Runner 2019 style and detail it with extras as if it was a true prop from the movie. I am also going to try adding a laser-diode module from a 'Predator' movie replica helmet to the side where the 'binding-post' would otherwise sit. Whether I will be able to insert it inside a binding post or whether it will have to sit alone on the side of the gun I'm not sure yet. That is for a later stage of the build. Predator lasers also use 9v power which may be a tight squeeze inside the replica magazine housing above the LEDs but if I cut two of the three laser-diodes off I may only require a 3v supply. We shall see...


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    Nov 6, 2017, 8:19 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #16

    Great thread! I bought a Sidkit from you earlier this year (with Teddz steel barrel and, separately, a Steyr screw). Your thread has motivated me to put out some build pics.
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    Nov 7, 2017, 6:45 PM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #17

    Subscribed! You have PM, too.
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    1 Week Ago  Jan 12, 2018, 6:53 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #18

    I had a delivery from the states yesterday of two replica Charter-Arms Bulldog cylinders, machined for me in steel by Don Parker. These are direct replacements for the ABS plastic Tomenosuke cylinder. I’m going to use one cylinder in my HCG Tomen' when it arrives in a couple of months and the other will, hopefully, fit the CAW Bulldog I'm using in my Holden Ghost build above. If it doesn't fit the CAW I may just blue and display it alongside the pistol in a display/carrying case. I intend to hot-blue them both next week using my work kilns to bring them to an even soak-heat of about 200C before quenching in Super-Blue concentrate and then leaving them to soak in oil for, um, a while..

    I buy a lot of my 'propage' from the US and have found the USPS to be terribly slow so the delivery caught me by surprise. I once waited eleven days for a bolt to go from California to New York for export but these cylinders were sent person-to-person across the pond in five days flat! No customs fees, no paperwork, no opening of the parcel at the airport or inspection delays even though these parts are the most obviously gun-part shaped I have ever ordered. Go figure.

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    1 Week Ago  Jan 12, 2018, 11:18 AM - Re: Phase 2. My Blade Runner replicas. #19

    I have a gen 1 Don Parker cylinder that I tried on my CAW build. Didnít fit on my initial try, but I havenít revisited it yet...


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