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  1. Lee S's Avatar
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    Aug 13, 2017, 6:43 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #26

    Yep I'm in too!
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    Aug 13, 2017, 9:22 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #27

    Count me in as well! Looking great and well worth the wait. Thanks guys !!
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    Aug 13, 2017, 9:27 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #28

    I will take one too!!
  4. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 14, 2017, 6:58 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #29

    Wing work

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    Aug 14, 2017, 7:04 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #30

    Wow. These are going to be gorgeous.

    Waiting anxiously with checkbook in hand....
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    Aug 15, 2017, 1:23 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #31

    I'm def in!
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    Aug 15, 2017, 2:56 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #32

    In

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  8. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 15, 2017, 7:43 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #33

    Putty is curing, then I can square up those lines!
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    Aug 15, 2017, 8:22 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #34

    I am in too!!!
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    Aug 16, 2017, 5:20 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #35

    Is there going to be two versions of the cockpit? a scale model version and life size set version?
  11. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 16, 2017, 7:08 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #36

    No idea. Honestly, you can get aftermarket ones that have been 3D printed for the "set piece" cockpit so I think it'd probably be just this version...

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    Aug 16, 2017, 7:21 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #37

    Ok, I was just asking because it seems V3 included both according to these instructions : https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=84095
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    Aug 16, 2017, 7:32 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #38

    I have a 3D printer cockpit by Gus76 I will be using on this bird. His work is excellent!
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    Aug 16, 2017, 10:07 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #39

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    Aug 16, 2017, 1:28 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #40

    Gorgeous. Very cool project,
  16. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 16, 2017, 3:01 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #41

    Almost there! Only a few stragglers to glue down

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    Aug 16, 2017, 5:05 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #42

    Very nice work Jason!
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    Aug 16, 2017, 5:17 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #43

    The kits really needed a better cockpit! Nice job!
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    Aug 16, 2017, 9:32 PM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #44

    Very nice work!!!!
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    Aug 17, 2017, 1:01 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #45

    Is the intent here to make a cockpit like one of the hero models or to do something else better or improve on an original? Either way I really want one!
  21. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 17, 2017, 6:18 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #46

    It's a re-patterning of what was in the hero X-Wings. I was fortunate enough to see a first gen casting in the hands of an ILMer, and some great photos of the Red 5 cockpit which is completely exposed, since the fuselage is "gone". Things to note - the parts on the back deck are noticeably larger as kit parts than the castings we have been using (probably third gen pyro castings that were worked over, with non-canon parts added), the Lancaster "can" on the left side console (rear) does not have the holes drilled into the top (the Heroes were left untouched), and there is a VERY obscure part hanging on the left of the center console. The fella that pulled them from the molds in '76 said that most of the time that "lever" would break off during de-mold and stay in the mold... never made it out intact. His personal casting HAD that part, so I had reference on it!

    Sadly it has not been IDed yet, so I scratch built it from the reference... one day we may find it, but the best minds have studied it, and haven't found it... yet!

    I also need to scratch a blobby part on the front left console, and the only part I added which might be wrong is the conical piece on the back deck, left... I chose a Fujimi 1/76 Sherman/Jeep part as it's period-accurate and looks like it *could* be that.

    Other than that, everything is exactly what they used! Exhausting! LOL
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    Aug 17, 2017, 11:17 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #47

    Are you redoing the nose also? The V4 nose was kind of lopsided. One side was more curved than the other left to right.
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    Aug 18, 2017, 7:07 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #48

    Yes, as we get better and better ref I am tweaking the fuselage and nose yet again. It's all pretty subtle changes but since i needed to re work for the blue 1 red 2 panel lines I am changing some stuff. Some of it is how it's cast etc, some of it is such minor changes that only the most eagle eyed will see it.

    Jason showed me some new ref at Wonderfest and I near jumped out of my seat proclaiming "we are off by 1mm right there!" So it's small stuff but we are always trying to make it just a bit better. Jason really got out of hand with the wings and engines etc, making tons more work for me.

    Because the fuselage and nose are stratchbuilt/handmade we will never get to 100%. I've made small choices all along the way to keep it more symmetrical, as symmetrical as something hand made can be. I've had to account for casting and a number of other small compromises.




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    Are you redoing the nose also? The V4 nose was kind of lopsided. One side was more curved than the other left to right.
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  24. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 18, 2017, 9:32 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #49

    I went "Full Eaton"
  25. Choosy moms choose Jif™ RPF Premium Member moffeaton's Avatar
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    Aug 18, 2017, 9:41 AM - Re: Salzo V5 X-Wing pattern work #50

    Speaking of - two cool things:

    I am being lent a FULL length Artoo (he extends down to the mount), which was cast in 1982 from the original '76-era mold for this project. His head is a bit wonky, but I have an excellent castings of the shorter Y-Wing length Artoo, so the V5s will have an accurately patterned appropriate "ILM Droid" for the first time!

    Also, to push Mike over the edge:

    I did an exhaustive survey of the panel patterns on the engines of all the X-Wings. There are four distinct Saturn V can patterns used across the models, and I’m going to etch inside each engine can pattern (it will be a thin veneer with etched lettering that I’ll laminate on) so it’s fool proof for Mike casting, and the model maker when building... the "legend" will tell you all the X-Wings that that one pattern is on, and which position it sits. I will also differentiate the pyros too, which are also wildly wonderfully inconsistent, lol. The only ones I DON’T know are the two cans on Red 1's bottom, and Red 6's bottom. I have a great shot of Red 6 from above that shows the patterns used, but every bottom pic has a hand or piece of wood or wing in the way... like it's deliberate LOL

    Anyway, it'd be a sorting nightmare without the lists laser etched to the inside of the physical part itself... it sure was a pain figuring it all out!

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