I think this is something that is just going to happen, it has to. Franchise-fatigue is a real thing. The only reason I saw this at the theater was because my friend really wanted me to go. I don't regret it, but I could have waited to watch it at home.Second worst drop for a MCU film. Did not see that one coming, even with Apes opening up.
Some films end up breaking records by staying at number 2 all summer long.
I think this is something that is just going to happen, it has to. Franchise-fatigue is a real thing. The only reason I saw this at the theater was because my friend really wanted me to go. I don't regret it, but I could have waited to watch it at home.
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* Captain America1, we can assume takes place either around the same time or shortly after Thor1.
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I have a fun theory, but stick with me
Karen is the Venom Symbiote in the MCU
Still with me?
The suit has its own mind, it helps fight, makes him stronger and can make him more lethal than Peter would ever want to be (full combat mode).
Remember when his eyes go black and red and Karen calls it "kill mode" or something like that?
Imagine Karen liking being connected with Spider-Man, she likes the power and his abilities, but eventually pushes Peter to do something (or almost) he doesn't want to do. Maybe she goes full recon mode and turns the suit black and has the scary interrogation voice, goes out at night and fights crime without him knowing (or against his will).
As he realizes Karen has her own goals and is using Peter, he also realizes that the suit is limiting his Spider Sense with the extra technology. He tears her off and discards the suit.
Maybe she never becomes Venom, but the original idea of Venom was to be a woman. This still would give us the Alien/Black suit story arc.
Plus, we know the suit could fit a much bigger person (Brock, but it won't be) or possibly Flash or a Ben Riley type of Spider Clone.
Actually I think CA1 took place in the 40's :lol
Here's a thought: how did Liz not know Peter was Spider-Man?
I know, I know, the thought that a friend of hers in high school being a SUPERHERO would probably never cross her mind, BUT...
She quite fancies Peter, so she obviously notices when Peter isn't around (enough to call him out on it during the car ride scene). When they're in DC and he's missing from the decathlon tournament, she talks to him on the phone obviously concerned about his absence. Then, the Spider-Man miraculously shows up to save them, when everyone knows he mainly operates out of NYC!?
But here's the real kicker...Liz's dad takes the two of them to the homecoming dance, and Toomes keeps Peter for the "dad talk." The next time Liz sees Peter he looks absolutely shocked, like he's seen a ghost (or rather just found out her dad is a super villain and just threatened his life and the lives of everyone he loves). Peter tells her "you don't deserve this," and runs a way (again). THAT SAME NIGHT, Liz's dad is caught by Spider-Man and arrested for selling illegal alien weapons to criminals. I don't think it would be too hard for Liz to connect the dots after this specific event alone, since Peter was so distraught after he talked to her dad, then disappeared immediately after, and a few hours later her dad was arrested. And even if Peter being Spider-Man is so far out of the realm of possibility for her, she did just find out her dad is a super-criminal, so it couldn't be that preposterous, right?
Idk, maybe I'm thinking too hard about this. I just think it's kinda funny
I have a feeling we will be seeing the suit Tony showed Peter, at the end, in Infinity War